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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-20-2011, 09:17 AM
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Those words means nothing, they are just business mumbling about a new release.

he would have said the same, even if the MG would have already signed for bancrupcy, considering they've just released the US version.

What do you think it would have happened if they would have said "well, we won't get up any other patch, but the good thing is that you can buy our next adoon in half a year"?!!
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hmm.. words like "we'll get a community manager" should have calmed us down, rrright?!!

words are nothing, if they are not followed by deeds.. and I've started see to less and less words, and no deeds at all.. which is kinda of worrying..

I've bought Il2CoD knowing fully the state of the game, but based on MG's history of patches and communication.. for me, they patching this game, and communicating with me is a moral part of this contract I've agreed when I've bought Il2CoD

which now seems like they are losing it.. so, i have all the motives in this world to be worried about!

Maybe you don't understand, bt what is exactly happening right now is MG alienating and losing the trust and respect of their base community. Is the worst thing which can happen to a small developer fo a niche market, and I'm afraid they won't survive without it.
there you go, I have some quotes too, answer them, pelase!
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:02 PM
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Are there any questions hidden?

I see only the ranting of a patienceless person which thinks it bought something beside the right to use this software.
Be assured, thats the only thing you've bought, no right of information, no "moral obligations", nothing else, beside the obligation to fix bugs and errors, and that is already happening.
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:53 PM
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Thank you Luthier for the warm welcome. You have our full support and we look forward to a very long and rewarding relationship with your team. Good luck!
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:02 PM
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Are there any questions hidden?

I see only the ranting of a patienceless person which thinks it bought something beside the right to use this software.
Be assured, thats the only thing you've bought, no right of information, no "moral obligations", nothing else, beside the obligation to fix bugs and errors, and that is already happening.
hmm.. why am I patientless, because I am asking about news regarding the progress of patching things which were advertised as working when selling the game?

had this been any other kind of product, I would have returned it already, and asked my money back.

and do count I've bought a collector's edition, for 50 £, and not because I wanted anything fom the CE box, but because I wanted to support MG.

and I haven't demanded "fix those now!", I just made a realistic request considering the situation, and my desire to still have il2CoD running: give us a regular update on the situation.

I don't need Luthier talking to me, or respond me any question, I just need them to make a post once a week, be it friday, in which they would update us with the current situation of the work on the patches.

this "waiting" is a thing which shows they don't care about our time, nor about respecting us. it would have been easier for everyone: just log in once a week, to find out what's the progress, and in one of those, also when the following patch is to be expected. and you can be sure the forum wouldn't be filled anymore with countless whines and sensless threads.

that's all. do you find that sooo an out-of-the-ordinary and not-so-reasonable request, considering the whole situation?!!
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:13 PM
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hmm.. why am I patientless, because I am asking about news regarding the progress of patching things which were advertised as working when selling the game?

had this been any other kind of product, I would have returned it already, and asked my money back.

and do count I've bought a collector's edition, for 50 £, and not because I wanted anything fom the CE box, but because I wanted to support MG.

and I haven't demanded "fix those now!", I just made a realistic request considering the situation, and my desire to still have il2CoD running: give us a regular update on the situation.

I don't need Luthier talking to me, or respond me any question, I just need them to make a post once a week, be it friday, in which they would update us with the current situation of the work on the patches.

this "waiting" is a thing which shows they don't care about our time, nor about respecting us. it would have been easier for everyone: just log in once a week, to find out what's the progress, and in one of those, also when the following patch is to be expected. and you can be sure the forum wouldn't be filled anymore with countless whines and sensless threads.

that's all. do you find that sooo an out-of-the-ordinary and not-so-reasonable request, considering the whole situation?!!
I agree totally 100%, the trouble is in here people dont read between the lines and a post like this somehow is seen by lots of others in here as a ''Your not fixing this game, its rubbish and we want a patch now god dammit'' which from what i read in here isnt the case...Im not seeing hardly any of that..what i am seeing is a request for info/update on certain aspects of the game but again..It seems to be taken way out of proportion and turns into a flame war....

If you dont want updates and your happy then dont read the thread..is it so hard? if people want something and feel they deserver it this is the place they ask, why people then decide its their duty to get a police badge out and stick on the brown nose is just..well, hilarious..thats what turns this forum into a slag fest imo...if you don't agree with the thread don't join it, your obviously happy with every aspect of this game so you dont need to concern yourself with others..let people speak and ask what they want..if no one in interested and the devs dont reply so be it...keep yer nose out of it and this forum will be a better place

Anyway...to answer your last question... yes they do see it as out of the ordinary strangely enough

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Old 07-20-2011, 01:39 PM
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If you dont want updates and your happy then dont read the thread..is it so hard? if people want something and feel they deserver it this is the place they ask, why people then decide its their duty to get a police badge out and stick on the brown nose is just..well, hilarious..thats what turns this forum into a slag fest imo...if you don't agree with the thread don't join it, your obviously happy with every aspect of this game so you dont need to concern yourself with others..let people speak and ask what they want..if no one in interested and the devs dont reply so be it...keep yer nose out of it and this forum will be a better place
No dice.

Rest assured you will be replied to if you post false information or the same complaints that in fact have been acknowledged by 1C long ago. The freedom of speech odesn`t work that way. You are free to say anything as long as it doesn`t offend anyone else or his rights. That`s a first.
Second, this is a 1C forum , the Russian distributor if IL2 : CLiffs of Dover. If you feel you have something to post, feel free to post it on the Ubisoft forums which also have CloD section available.

And no, not many of us are fully satisfied with this game. But we intend on keeping the potential buyers informed exactly on what is wrong with this game. You on the other hand represent the "all or nothing" crowd. You daily post that this game is krap, yet you have stayed here for so long. It`s a waste of your generous customer resources, can`t you see?
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:54 PM
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Lol...

And that response is why i wrote my post in the first place...

On a side note..not everyone that is asking for updates is saying this game is Krap..as you put it

I certainly have never said that, in fact your find that i say Im enjoying this game and can run it on max settings quite a few times in these forums...and help people if needed..

So that stereotype that you see fit in describing on many occasions just isn't true

Its like me saying your just an annoying Troll who seems to love the 'im right' power trip and if there is something you dont agree with it, you come out in a rash if you cant jump in with your cape shouting and screaming annoying every single poster in this forum.. but that would be very shallow of me to think such things..after all its something you feel passionate about (this sim) like me

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"...as long as it doesnt offend anyone."
you are definitely the wrong guy to say that!
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:16 PM
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Какой хороший Приглашаем к американцам.
Но вы забыли канадцы, которые также имеют игру теперь ...
Во всяком случае, это нормально, мы привыкли быть всегда оставлял позади ...

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What a nice welcome for the Americans.
But you forgot the Canadians who also have the game now...
Anyway, that's okay, we used to be always left behind ...
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:18 PM
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You don't seem to realize that a weekly update doesn't make the patch come out earlier.
You just don't trust that the devs are working on the patch.
But if the devs were so untrustworthy, they easily had the time to write some nice sentences to pacify the impatient instead than working on the patch.
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