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[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by furbs

it does work but OMG its ugly!!

it does seem taking the tree's off affects other stuff, i will have to take a couple of screenies to compare.

Edit...UGLY!!


By furbs9999 at 2011-07-19


By furbs9999 at 2011-07-19

looks like i have to do that if i wanna continue flying in that server... lost it 4 times in about 25 mins tonight..

[Blackdog_kt]

It's simple really and it's how i've managed to get my money's worth out of the sim in a very short amount of time: if something doesn't work well i'll turn it off until a patch makes it work better.

For example, i saw that recent texture poll and the majority were running original textures when it's common knowledge by now that a GPU with more than 2GB of video RAM is needed to run that along with other settings at high levels, no wonder everyone is having heavy stutters. Meanwhile, i'm running medium textures and having only mild hiccups when lots of stuff is loaded for the first time at tree-top level on a two year old PC, it's smooth as silk above 100-200 meters of altitude or so.

When it's a choice between pretty and functional i'll go with functional every single time and focus on the rest of the working elements. Sure, no trees looks worse than full trees but if i was flying online i'd be much more engrossed in the experience by being able to actually carry out a dogfight and enjoy myself instead of waiting when the sound bug will strike, to the point that after a while i would completely forget about the trees.

Try it guys, you might actually start having fun for a change

Sure you can turn it all off, but then you end of up with it looking like a Il2-1946 but with load more bugs. Look at my system specs, should i really have turn all this stuff down?

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Sure you can turn it all off, but then you end of up with it looking like a Il2-1946 but with load more bugs. Look at my system specs, should i really have turn all this stuff down?

Tree just had a look at your spec and its exactly the same as mine xcept i have a 480gtx and 2 ssd's instead of the mec hd's. but was planning on getting the 580 3gig,thought it would be nice for FSX? what do you think?

do you have HT turned on or off and do you set an affinity mask?
thanks

Hey snake, i dont believe you live far from me, you could always pop over and have a play and see what you think.

[furbs]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

For example, i saw that recent texture poll and the majority were running original textures when it's common knowledge by now that a GPU with more than 2GB of video RAM is needed to run that along with other settings at high levels, no wonder everyone is having heavy stutters. Meanwhile, i'm running medium textures and having only mild hiccups when lots of stuff is loaded for the first time at tree-top level on a two year old PC, it's smooth as silk above 100-200 meters of altitude or so.

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Sorry Blackdog, but thats not true. At least for me, i have a 580 1.5 gb and im pretty happy with performance at original texture with everything else high too. I get between 50 and 60 fps with sometime drops down to 30.

What annoys me is the FPS drops or stutters for no reason, ie i can be flying along the sea at 60 fps and then it will drop for no reason down to 30 for a few seconds then jump back up, and this with nothing going on the screen.


COD with out the trees doesnt look that much better than IL2, were just talking landscape at say 500 meters, in fact some of the IL2 maps loook much more like England.

[klem]

Originally Posted by furbs

Sorry Blackdog, but thats not true. At least for me, i have a 580 1.5 gb and im pretty happy with performance at original texture with everything else high too. I get between 50 and 60 fps with sometime drops down to 30.

What annoys me is the FPS drops or stutters for no reason, ie i can be flying along the sea at 60 fps and then it will drop for no reason down to 30 for a few seconds then jump back up, and this with nothing going on the screen.


COD with out the trees doesnt look that much better than IL2, were just talking landscape at say 500 meters, in fact some of the IL2 maps loook much more like England.

furbs, could it be that you're on the edge with your 1.5Gb memory? Nothing is very far away on the channel map - could it be loading distant terrain data or aircraft data beyond visual range? The a/c are almost invisible until they 'jump up' as dots and who knows when the other coast loads.

You coud try turning off or cutting back on trees to see if it moves the problem away.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Sure you can turn it all off, but then you end of up with it looking like a Il2-1946 but with load more bugs. Look at my system specs, should i really have turn all this stuff down?

Who said turn it all off? I'm running mostly medium settings with a couple on low to "buy" some performance for setting a couple more on high.

It doesn't matter if you should or not. There's what you think the game should be and what the game is, you can either be realistic and have some fun with the game's working elements, or not be and continue not having fun and not discovering what does work.

Originally Posted by furbs

Sorry Blackdog, but thats not true. At least for me, i have a 580 1.5 gb and im pretty happy with performance at original texture with everything else high too. I get between 50 and 60 fps with sometime drops down to 30.

What annoys me is the FPS drops or stutters for no reason, ie i can be flying along the sea at 60 fps and then it will drop for no reason down to 30 for a few seconds then jump back up, and this with nothing going on the screen.


COD with out the trees doesnt look that much better than IL2, were just talking landscape at say 500 meters, in fact some of the IL2 maps loook much more like England.

First you say it's not true and then you tell me you have stutters, which is almost what i described in the first place (that you need about 2GB of vRAM or so to use original textures with other settings on high if you want to maintain acceptable performance)


Like i said to Tree, you guys need to compromise a bit. Don't compromise with the developers, your expectations of the sim or your rights as paying customers, but you do need to compromise with reality.

The game is what the game is. Asking "should i have to turn this off" doesn't make it run better on your system. Either turn down a couple of settings and fly (you'll see it fills the time nicely and when you fly you don't spend time anxiously waiting for patches), or continue pulling your collective hair out, it's your choice really

[furbs]

Stutters to me are micro pauses every say 3 to 10 seconds lasting about half a second, and seem more GPU.
They 95% went away when i upgraded.

The bigger drops in FPS can happen any time, online or off, and are just that...a big drop in FPS and a pause of a second or two for what seems no reason.
It happens in busy offline missions or just flying along, or online just sitting on the runway.
they seem more CPU than GPU to me.

[Blackdog_kt]

I have some too when flying really low, but generally speaking they are the same thing i used to have some years ago when IL2 was still new and i7 PCs didn't exist yet.

I don't know if it's GPU or CPU related, but they are exactly similar to what i used to have when running pacific fighters on an AthlonXP with a geforce mx440, small pauses when there's a chunk of data that needs to be cached for the first time. Heck, i remember running IL2 at 800x600 and still getting the occasional pause when i had a lot of aircraft on screen at once with a cloudy sky.

After a while i managed to identify where it was most likely to occur, i realized i would need to wait for a better PC but i could still work around it to the point that it wasn't breaking gameplay . I started flying in a way that minimized the chances of it occurring and it also helped me fly better (since i was most likely to use wide views i maintained a better SA and spent less time in dogfights and more time in executing hit and run attacks), then better patches and better PCs came along and the rest is history.

Maybe the fact that i was used to running IL2 on mid to low end PCs for much of its life makes it easier for me to cope with similar issues in CoD and not even notice some of them, who knows.