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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-18-2011, 03:22 PM
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This is great, here was me thinking it was the developers fault that MP sounds don't work, the AI crashes into the ground, radio commands don't work, buildings pop up, the qmb is worse than il2 etc etc and it turns out it was my computer all along!

Personally I think people using the offensive term 'whiners' when talking about paying customers should get the same penalty as people using other offensive language here.
I remember IL2 we had sounds that did and didn't work. We had AI crashes into the ground as far back as I remember. One patch would fix another would break it again. Anomalies were on and off as well throughout the life of IL2.

I think whiners is an excellent word.

Maybe you could give us a better word, that won't offend paying customers. I went to the movie the other night, half the people were whining when they were talking among themselves on the way out. Others were talking about how they loved the movie. All paying customers just doing what comes natural... to them.
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:45 PM
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I think whiners is an excellent word.

Maybe you could give us a better word, that won't offend paying customers. I went to the movie the other night, half the people were whining when they were talking among themselves on the way out. Others were talking about how they loved the movie. All paying customers just doing what comes natural... to them.
How about customers? Whiner is offensive when referring to somebody who has bought a product that does not work as advertised and has the temerity to come on to a company forum and complain about it.
Still, you don't seem to understand so I will leave it at that. Its not a good way to further the companies interests though, by alienating a large percentage of future product purchasers.
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:27 PM
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How about customers? Whiner is offensive when referring to somebody who has bought a product that does not work as advertised and has the temerity to come on to a company forum and complain about it.
Still, you don't seem to understand so I will leave it at that. Its not a good way to further the companies interests though, by alienating a large percentage of future product purchasers.
What I tried to say is... it doesn't matter. Paying customers and non-paying customer will whine. Some people are just going to whine.
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:43 PM
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Personally I think people using the offensive term 'whiners' when talking about paying customers should get the same penalty as people using other offensive language here.
Right on brother! Moderators no less. I was thinking this this morning but knew since I've been classed as a 'whiner' I'd just get flamed for saying that as a moderator nearmiss I'm disapointed in you for not trying to stay impartial, as is your job here.
What if i needed your help, my whiner tag would effect how you delt with the situation even though it might be something totally legitimate.

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Old 07-18-2011, 05:04 PM
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Some people dont get it. it seems.
Posting a complaint/bug/error -----> GOOD! ---> productive!

Posting the same again, even when posted by another -----> still good! ---> ok, to recall.

Posting the same errors again and again and again -----> WHINING! ---> despicable!! ---> nerve grating! ---> contraproductive! ---> flamewarigniting!

Am i wrong?
If yes, WHY?
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:17 PM
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Some people dont get it. it seems.
Posting the same errors again and again and again -----> WHINING! ---> despicable!! ---> nerve grating! ---> contraproductive! ---> flamewarigniting!

Am i wrong?
If yes, WHY?
If this crowd actually followed the rule, they wouldn`t have anything else to do. This forum or anything else.
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:11 PM
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This is great, here was me thinking it was the developers fault that MP sounds don't work, the AI crashes into the ground, radio commands don't work, buildings pop up, the qmb is worse than il2 etc etc and it turns out it was my computer all along!

Personally I think people using the offensive term 'whiners' when talking about paying customers should get the same penalty as people using other offensive language here.

I think the post is about performance rather that bugs. You are talking about bugs that will need to be fixed by the developers working on the code. Performance is how well your system runs the game as it stands with reference to fps, stutters and perhaps some of the artifacts.

There may still be some optimization to do that will improve performance across the board but the fact is some people cannot get satisfactory performance when their system specs suggest they should. No one has provided an answer why that should be.

I am lucky to be happy enough with the performance given my specs. The game runs with everything maxed at ave 50fps over water, 30 to 40fps over land dropping to low, mid 20s when attacking bombers over London. Minimal stuttering.

My choice of componants for my upgrade were made on the following basis.

1. My budget was no more than £500.

2. I have always prefered AMD over Intel on a purely subjective basis and the Phenome 965 fitted into my budget.

3. The motherboard got good reviews and seemed well designed and I liked the fact it has a nVidia chipset.

4. I got an nVidia graphics card as the developers have always said nVidia were willing to have a dialogue whereas ATI were not. I also got an Asus card to match the Asus board. I perhaps wish I had got a card with more Vram.

5. I needed DDR3 ram and I only got 4Gb of ram to keep within budget but again I made the mistake of getting 2 x 2Gb whereas I should have got 1 x 4Gb so now I can only upgrade with 2 more 2 x 2Gb or 2 x 4Gb rather than being able to get another 1 x 4Gb.

6. All the componants are designed to be overclocked but I haven't done so yet due to rather weak cooling.

The whole lot including VAT etc came in at £480.

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Old 07-18-2011, 07:26 PM
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5. I needed DDR3 ram and I only got 4Gb of ram to keep within budget but again I made the mistake of getting 2 x 2Gb whereas I should have got 1 x 4Gb so now I can only upgrade with 2 more 2 x 2Gb or 2 x 4Gb rather than being able to get another 1 x 4Gb.
Unless you were getting 2x4gb sticks from the get go, you should be happy you got 2x2gb. 1x4gb single stick wouldn't do you much good. 8gb is plenty man.

Anyway, I'm glad to see NOTHING have changed on this forum. I may install again in a year or two. Hepp!
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:50 PM
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The board will take just one ram module in first slot (single channel) and then a second module can be installed but then both the remaining slots must be populated. To upgrade I can only increase to 8 or 12Mb whereas if I had put the single 4Mb in I could upgrade to 8 and then to 12 or 16Mb, or so I believe. I was thinking if I wanted to install a ram drive although some are saying they don't work so well.
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:33 PM
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I think the post is about performance rather that bugs. You are talking about bugs that will need to be fixed by the developers working on the code. Performance is how well your system runs the game as it stands with reference to fps, stutters and perhaps some of the artifacts.

There may still be some optimization to do that will improve performance across the board but the fact is some people cannot get satisfactory performance when their system specs suggest they should. No one has provided an answer why that should be.

I am lucky to be happy enough with the performance given my specs. The game runs with everything maxed at ave 50fps over water, 30 to 40fps over land dropping to low, mid 20s when attacking bombers over London. Minimal stuttering.

My choice of componants for my upgrade were made on the following basis.

1. My budget was no more than £500.

2. I have always prefered AMD over Intel on a purely subjective basis and the Phenome 965 fitted into my budget.

3. The motherboard got good reviews and seemed well designed and I liked the fact it has a nVidia chipset.

4. I got an nVidia graphics card as the developers have always said nVidia were willing to have a dialogue whereas ATI were not. I also got an Asus card to match the Asus board. I perhaps wish I had got a card with more Vram.

5. I needed DDR3 ram and I only got 4Gb of ram to keep within budget but again I made the mistake of getting 2 x 2Gb whereas I should have got 1 x 4Gb so now I can only upgrade with 2 more 2 x 2Gb or 2 x 4Gb rather than being able to get another 1 x 4Gb.

6. All the componants are designed to be overclocked but I haven't done so yet due to rather weak cooling.

The whole lot including VAT etc came in at £480.


Whilst I think, I also do the following:

Install CloD on it's own drive with it's own Win 7 64 bit OS.

Do not install anything not needed by Clod on that drive. Inc anti virus.

Launch CloD using Game Booster.

I used to delete game and reinstall when updating but now just delete .ini files from Steam folder and documents and also the files in cache.

Do not fiddle with config files.

Defrag game files after update.

Have up to date drivers correctly installed. ie. remove all traces of old ones first.

Password protect the drive to keep kids out as they love poking around in dodgy sites and social networks and downloading stuff unsuitable for the health of a computer.

If all else fails it is no big deal to format drive and install everything fresh.

Not sure if any of that helps but it can't do any harm.
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