IL2 and Sound Modding

[JG52Uther]

Bearcat I actually respect you more than any of the other moderators at the ubi forum,as you are the only one who has publicly posted and tried to heal the rift in the il2 community.Look what happened with that.
You are a member of that 'other' forum,and seem to like some of the stuff being done there.
Another ubi moderator is a member of that forum and actually a financial supporter.Good for him.
Other people are probably members under different names.We all have one thing in common here,and thats a love of the best combat flight sim ever made.
There is a blanket ban on even whispering about the mod/hack at ubi,so there can be no discussion in any way.Even the vaguest hint gets a ban (ask Fabianfred).
I don't have a 'beef' with what you do over at the ubi forum. As the moderators there you can do what you like.Theres no point in starting a thread about it there as,even if BC doesn't delete/lock it,then one of the other mods will.
As you said,this is not the ubi forum,and discussion should be allowed until Evgeny decides otherwise.Thats what a forum is for.

[fly_zo]

fabianfred got banned from Zoo for this "great insult":

"it WILL have the new Slovakia map....plus about 300 new objects (from that map)

maybe one a/c

...but the slovakia map will be the best we've ever had...and probably the best we will ever get......officially that is"

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3/m/4101061716


so bearcat i know what i'm saying here....

[SlipBall]

Wow, does seem like a over reaction of the mod that banned him

[Lo0n]

just a touch. anyone could've made that comment, mod user or not. if people get banned for such a minor mention then surely it would be fair if anyone mentioning it, positive or negative, gets the same treatment...

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by fly_zo

fabianfred got banned from Zoo for this "great insult":

"it WILL have the new Slovakia map....plus about 300 new objects (from that map)
maybe one a/c
...but the slovakia map will be the best we've ever had...and probably the best we will ever get......officially that is"
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3/m/4101061716


so bearcat i know what i'm saying here....

Yes I saw that .... and I know of what you speak.. however it is this

So please don't try to justify moderators witch-hunt on mod mentions down at Ubi -Zoo ....'cos nobody is buying it

And if you Ubi moderators want to do your job properly you would delete /edit just insulting posts and not whole threads.... but that would took too much of your time which you spending ...here .

That I took issue with... statements like that should always be qualified with a "Some" or "a few" but not a blanket... thats all I am saying. While I have my opinions about the particular case in question.... in truth some of the people in this thread brough such draconian measures upon themselves because they just couldn't even talk without hurling insults back and forth or they had to just keep the same bullheaded dialog going thereby removing any chance of any real dialog..

[JG52Uther]

Well maybe all the ubi moderators could 'get on the same page' so to speak,as at stands now nobody quite knows what is allowed there and what will result in a ban.One moderator will allow something,the next one who comes along will dish out a ban /thread deletion /thread lock.Surely you must have some sort of moderators forum there where you discuss what you will and will not allow.

[fly_zo]

I'm just curious, is there anyone who "moderate" the moderators at the Zoo?

some kind of supervisor or something ...

[mondo]

Ubi community manager at a guess.

[JG52Uther]

Don't know why,but I always thought the mysterious Steve_V was the boss.He just used to breeze in,ban someone for asking/talking about the official ubi no cd file,and disappear back into the night like the masked avenger.
Although,since the official no cd file was officially 'outed' by the other ubi moderators a couple of weeks ago,he seems to be strangely absent.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Well maybe all the ubi moderators could 'get on the same page' so to speak,as at stands now nobody quite knows what is allowed there and what will result in a ban.One moderator will allow something,the next one who comes along will dish out a ban /thread deletion /thread lock.Surely you must have some sort of moderators forum there where you discuss what you will and will not allow.

We are on the same page.... it is just that we are also individuals.. and sometimes things are not as clear cut & dry to one as it may be to another.. but make no mistake we are on the same page as far as what goes on on that forum.. because we all have to come out with our broom and mop to clean up each mess that gets made over there... I may not agree with everything another mod does.. and they may not always agree with me.. but I for one will never override a decision made by another mod.. even if I do not agree with it... None of us are perfect.. but we all do have this sim at the core of what we do, why we do it and how we do it...