Reviewing Luthier's roadmap

[bongodriver]

For me the moaning about people moaning is because the moaners have a weird idea that their moaning is going to be of some sort of interest in general, but in reality the moaning only appeals to other moaners and entire threads build up from the moaning club with the subsequent anti-moan moaning club obligedly countering the moaning with anti-moan.....moaning.

This is why in my oppinion there needs to be 2 dedicated forum sections, 1 for the 'moaners' and another for the 'anti-moan fanbois', they must be clearly labelled as to their function, in this way any wandering forum surfers will be able to pick and choose which sub section most appeals to their tastes.

[philip.ed]

No, people should just understand that the mature way of approaching someone who's been critical is to just leave them alone. And likewise for a 'fan-boi'. Obviously I'm probably being hypocritical in saying this, but it would help things. What annoys me is that people should be able to post what they want without questioning. Obviously certain posts may stand out as being outlandishly stupid, but if you're looking for a 'solution' complete seperation shouldn't really be initiated.

Personally, things are OK as they are; it's just internet banter.

[bongodriver]

We all know that 'mature' isn't going to happen any time soon here, so in short moaners should carry on moaning and anti-moaners should use their right to free speech to let the moaners know how they feel and vice versa.......or even shorter change nothing.

yeah I know.....you just said that.......I'm a bit blonde today

[philip.ed]

Yes; exactly
It's just the vicious circle of development; people will all have differing views on the process for improvement (in the same way that political parties offer differing ideological perspectives).

Lets face it people moan, myself included when things are not fair.
So as the developers said yes its not fair, we are responsible give us time we will keep you updated with a community spokesman.
Peoples views can be as different as you like, as long as theirs a mitigator, at the moment we are mitigating each other with admins mitigating the mitgators.

Lack of meanful diaglog, 1C holds the key to stop this rubbish from going on, they know this or they wouldnt have promised a spokesman. But why make that empty promise, its only gonna fuel the flames, so its their fault the forum is left to wildy speculate and has become an unhappy place. Sorry but its the truth.
It could all gave been sorted by now if they had done what they said they were gonna do. Because then people have facts, and if they havent heard them they can be linked to them.

[bongodriver]

But hasn't it been hypothesised already that if the devs take time to communicate then that is time out of their day developing....and also the community manager idea has had a reasonable conclusion as to why it hasn't happened, pretty much for the same reason.

so given that the devs 'have' explained what they are working on...oh yes they have, then is it not reasonable to take the attitude that it will take as long as it takes? you know....like when the kid in the back seat is asking 'are we there yet?' no matter how often he asks the journey will take as long as......

this is why some cars have dvd players in them now, to shut that bloody kid up, so while you are waiting is there nothing that will distract you? not even a good old session on that supersmashing Rise of Flight game that is totally lorded around here all the time?

[ATAG_Dutch]

I'd just like to say that having a moan about the people who moan at the moaners is just another new wave of moaning.

[bongodriver]

only until someone moans about it enough.

[Sammi79]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

For me the moaning about people moaning is because the moaners have a weird idea that their moaning is going to be of some sort of interest in general, but in reality the moaning only appeals to other moaners and entire threads build up from the moaning club with the subsequent anti-moan moaning club obligedly countering the moaning with anti-moan.....moaning.

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

I'd just like to say that having a moan about the people who moan at the moaners is just another new wave of moaning.

those 2 comments absolutely slayed me. Like out of Red Dwarf or Blackadder or something. So there's people who moan about the thing, then there's people who moan about the people who moan about the thing... what does that make you 2?
no offence intended folks honestly that was just too funny. Keep 'em coming, Sorry for off topic.

Cheers,
Sam.