crash at duxford today [2011]

[Mysticpuma]

Originally Posted by RocketDog

The BBC have some video here:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-14101641

I was just leaving the carpark when the collision happened and turned round to see the Skyraider upside down and with bits falling off before it disappeared from view behind a hangar. I thought he had gone in for certain, but he managed to recover and land OK. The P-51 took a hell of a whack, but seemed to recover a bit, allowing the pilot chance to bail out.

Does no-one know how to operate a bloody camera!!!!!! That's the second clip where there is a collison and everyone stops filming....totally bizarre!

Thanks for the link though, cheers, MP

[PeterPanPan]

This happened as I was leaving, so didn't see/hear it at all (which is odd, as I was in earshot of the tannoy system for ages).

Here are a couple of pics of the 2 aircraft involved, only a short while before the collision.

Is that a pitot tube under the Skyraider's right wing, where it's folded up? If so, that pilot also had to contend with a dead ASI and a missing wing tip. Makes his recovery and landing even better.

So pleased both pilots walked away ok.

PPP

[PeterPanPan]

... and here's a short clip of her last ever taxi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TujQuzoR2k8

PPP

[Houndstone Hawk]

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

Amazing....gazillions of people there and we have two phone cameras capture the event 400-miles away!

Does no-one know how to operate a bloody camera!!!!!! That's the second clip where there is a collison and everyone stops filming....totally bizarre!

Thanks for the link though, cheers, MP

Sorry but I can't let this go. People like you bug the XXXXXXXX crap out of me. Only interestede in a 'creepy peepshow'.
Yes I videoed the whole event yesterday; yes I saw what happended, yes I immidietely then turned my camera off.

I realise had I had filmed the event then it would've been perhaps helpful to the air crash invistigation team at a later date & some good comes out of such footage but I'm glad my footage isn't used to entertain XXXXX like you.

BBD gone for good, massive blow but no one was hurt but you'll probably be disappointed in learning that there was no epic fireball or plumes of smoke or gasps from the crowd; just decent folk that knew when to stop filming, out of concern, respect, whatever!!!

[ckolonko]

The BBC video shows the wreckage of the P-51. From what I saw there is more than enough left of the 'plane to rebuild it. They have rebuilt Spitfires from less parts.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by ckolonko

the bbc video shows the wreckage of the p-51. From what i saw there is more than enough left of the 'plane to rebuild it. They have rebuilt spitfires from less parts.

rofl!

[JG52Krupi]

Have only seen the wreck on the distant pics but I hope your proven right or at least it's turned into a static rebuild it is one of the more famous survivors.

[ZG26-extralarge]

i dont think we will see bbd back in the air.....

I was airborne when it haopened,good to know that Rob miraculously got out ok!

I believe that the accident happened for three reasons:
1) you DON'T do that opening from a Vic formation,you do it from Echelon,poor planning made by people that obviously aren't that competent.

2) you tend not to do these manoeuvres with planes that have different performances,and if you do..

3) ..you dont go for a 2 secs break interval,you go for a 5 secs one.

Flying Legends has been under the CAA radar for years cos of it's previous accidents,this might well be the last year of it,cos it's a mixture of pilot's error (one French pilot has been grounded on Sat,the other one will be as well probably) and inadequate preparation/briefing.

Lots of pilots with mixed experience,a lot of planes all over the place..
I was there on Sat and me and my friend from the Air Force were a bit surprised by some of the procedures..

Anyway,on a funny/gossip note: the plane had just been sold to a new German owner,who was watching the show,so there must have been the French pilot going "XXXX!",the English pilot going "XXXX!" and the German owner going "XXXXXXXX!" all at the same time

[Viper2000]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger

Flying Legends has been under the CAA radar for years cos of it's previous accidents,this might well be the last year of it,cos it's a mixture of pilot's error (one French pilot has been grounded on Sat,the other one will be as well probably) and inadequate preparation/briefing.

The closest thing to a warbird crash I've ever seen was a Martlet conducting a barrel roll at Duxford from an inadvisable altitude, bottoming out so low that I couldn't help but close my eyes (<10 feet; it was very "barrelled", the peak being perhaps 80 feet, and it seemed pretty obvious that the pilot had just underestimated how much it would drop during the rest of the manoeuvre - perhaps he was used to flying something which rolled faster?). That was probably 15 years ago or more.

The funny thing is that almost nobody else seemed to take any notice. Only about half were even watching (it wasn't a big airshow day), and I suppose most of the people who were assumed that it was deliberate. Perhaps it was, but I doubt it, and if it was then the pilot was rather too bold for my taste.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger

Anyway,on a funny/gossip note: the plane had just been sold to a new German owner,who was watching the show,so there must have been the French pilot going "*****!",the English pilot going "****!" and the German owner going "********!" all at the same time

All of which would probably have been as nothing when compared with the tirade coming from the insurer's office...