For those against Digital sales (also Steam).

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

Exactly - so if you drop and dmg the disk you can never play it again possibly, but digitally it is there for me to DL and therefore provides security for my purchase.

Also its not steam's problem, 99% of steam games run great/smooth with it, blame the devs not steam.

not true. Ive borken my BF2 CD, easy fix. torrent it, put in my ORIGINAL cd-key. Torrents do exist for more than piracy, dispite what most believe.

[Chivas]

I ordered the COD disk from England, but I've found Steam very usefull. It worked very well when I played Red Orchestra, and have had no problems with COD so far. I actually find Steam quick and painless installing game patches, or checking the integrety of the sim code, and repairing if necessary. Steam has been a big plus for me so far, and I trust it much more than I ever would a Torrent download.

[Davy TASB]

Steam is OK for some games but flight sims really need to have things like printed manuals and control keys reference sheets so the option to buy a boxed version with these things included should always be available.

(Pines for the good old days ).

[ChicoMick]

My main problem with steam games is automatic updates.

Unless you keep an earlier back up copy before each update you can never roll back to a previous version. This may not matter to a lot of people but it can be really annoying if you like to apply mods to improve a game and then the steam updates are applied and you find the mods are incompatable with newer versions.

Sometimes a game comes out, brilliant mods are created, some mods re adjusted for the first couple of patches but then for example after V1.4 will no longer work. If you happen to buy a steam game say six months after release you will only ever get the latest current verion, say V1.7 and all the good mods only work up to V1.4

Also as some people have said with Clod, the automatic new patch has had negative effects on their game that cannot be undone. Even if you have the Dvd version of V1.0 Steam will update it on activation.

I liked the old days when you downloaded the patches and applied whatever version you wanted and worked best.

[Heliocon]

Originally Posted by pupo162

not true. Ive borken my BF2 CD, easy fix. torrent it, put in my ORIGINAL cd-key. Torrents do exist for more than piracy, dispite what most believe.

Yeah and you have a good chance of torrenting a virus/trojan down with the game. Have fun.

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

Yeah and you have a good chance of torrenting a virus/trojan down with the game. Have fun.

I trust my friends far mroe than i trust steam. Be sure.

I think the Steam deal was done because the Dev's knew how bad the release would be, if it had been released soley in the shops half of them would of been returned by now with refunds given, the fact you cannot get a refund through steam was a very clever move and has kept the cash in Olegs pocket. Obviously not so good for us, Ive never had any problems with any game through steam before but CLOD disconnects frequently, obviously bad coding again rather than Steam.

[MadTommy]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

I think the Steam deal was done because the Dev's knew how bad the release would be, if it had been released soley in the shops half of them would of been returned by now with refunds given, the fact you cannot get a refund through steam was a very clever move and has kept the cash in Olegs pocket.

What a load of clap trap.

For a start you can get refunds from Steam, at least in the EU as they are regulated by the Distance Selling Directive. You have 7 days to return them, you don't even need a reason.

The rest of what you are sayings is pure BS. Steam is just a great way to get your product to millions of prospective customers.

[Space Communist]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

I think the Steam deal was done because the Dev's knew how bad the release would be, if it had been released soley in the shops half of them would of been returned by now with refunds given, the fact you cannot get a refund through steam was a very clever move and has kept the cash in Olegs pocket. Obviously not so good for us, Ive never had any problems with any game through steam before but CLOD disconnects frequently, obviously bad coding again rather than Steam.

This is pretty hilarious because I actually did return CloD on steam. I had it pre-ordered but then when they kept pushing back the NA release I just got a refund then ordered it from Justflight.

Besides which, most physical copies of games (software in general really) are impossible to return after the package has been opened.

[Heliocon]

Originally Posted by Space Communist

This is pretty hilarious because I actually did return CloD on steam. I had it pre-ordered but then when they kept pushing back the NA release I just got a refund then ordered it from Justflight.

Besides which, most physical copies of games (software in general really) are impossible to return after the package has been opened.

You can only cancel a pre-order. (In the US atleast).