COOPS possible with yesterday's patch?

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Hanzu

In IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 4.08-4.09 there were total of 84 official COOP missions if you played both RED and BLUE as separate missions and forbidded human players to go on two different sides.

So imagine how disappointed I was when I noticed Cliffs Of Dover includes one official COOP mission. Which is not working, I mean I as a host could not even get inside the aircraft. It worked by default like observer mode and just watched how lame AI pilot crashed into a mountain every time.

Lack of "cooperative missions" promised in the back of the gamebox cannot be excused by saying you should not want to COOP because it is unrealistic. Why was the difficulty settings easy, normal and custom added, if you want to encourage us to real life airwarfare?

Ironically I would not mind if there would be no difficulty settings at all, since I have never played IL-2 series on nothing else than full realism (with the exception of No Icons disabled).

There reason for me and my gamebuddies want to play COOP and COOP only is that we are tired of competition, cheating and "I want to be the best" -egoism that many player versus player games or gamemodes offers. Isn't there already enough competition and fighting between humans in the world already, so why shouldn't I want to use this simulator to simulate fight between humans and never-give-up AI.

In COOP your opponent will not get tired, will not go to change baby diapers, will not go AFK, BRB and so on. Also enemy never cheats, will never get tired of stalking or camping, he can wait for you forever or chase you forever. We just like COOP and there is noway to turn us away from it.

If you want to drop off COOP because it is unrealistic, get rid of everything else that is unrealistic too, like the difficulty settings and replace it with full realism only.

Those who have worked for the IL-2 original COOP missions, should be happy that there are/were people who enjoyed playing them and not everyone just play dogfights, ADW or custom missions. Like we used to do.

What people are trying to explain here is that the reason we have no pure Coop mode is the same reason we have no pure DF mode: the new multiplayer mode supports both at the same time. How it works depends on how you set things up in the FMB and how you join the teams, if you want to you can have a coop within a DF server, or a pure DF server or a pure Coop.

It's not like the sim is forcing you to use a certain feature just because it's there. You can ignore it and use only what you want, for example you don't set multiple spawn points all over the map so that people are forced to stick to the coop scenario and not turn it into a DF map.

You can set everything up like a coop (one team of players vs one team of AI) and fly, the only thing that's changed is that there's no big sign in neon letters making a distinction between the two modes anymore: you have all the features at your disposal, choosing what to use is a matter of how the mission is designed in the FMB. Which to be honest, is not very different to IL2:1946 since it also required a few different steps in how a mission was designed.

The only problem is that it's hard to click on aircraft in the pre-flight map but that's not a fundamental design flaw, it's just an interface issue.

I hope i'm making myself clear, what i'm trying to say is that the only thing that's changed is the labels, we can still fly a pure DF scenario or a pure Coop scenario if we have a suitable mission made in the FMB.