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Cdr84 · #1 06-15-2011, 04:06 AM

Must be a lot of Silent Hunter 5 fans here.

I for one am tired of waiting years for a sim to come out, buying it, and then waiting months, years, or never for it to work properly.

This is what is killing sims.

Silent Hunter 5 torpedoed WWII sub sims for the foreseeable future. CloD most likely has done the same for WWII flight sims.

Time will tell.

Cdr

klem · #2 06-15-2011, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cdr84

Must be a lot of Silent Hunter 5 fans here.

I for one am tired of waiting years for a sim to come out, buying it, and then waiting months, years, or never for it to work properly.

This is what is killing sims.

Silent Hunter 5 torpedoed WWII sub sims for the foreseeable future. CloD most likely has done the same for WWII flight sims.

Time will tell.

Cdr

Yes, time will tell.

Get off the fanboy wagons guys, this isn't a competition. I know there's a genuine and strong feeling for IL-2 and the mods have taken it way beyond what MG were prepared to allow - I liked the mods very much and was fed up with the simulation restrictions of the outdated version 4.xx - but at its heart CoD is a better simulation.

Anyone who hasn't flown CoD just isn't in a position to appreciate what it has and will become when the bugs have been sorted.

Anyone who has flown it and can see past the bugs will know that as a flight combat sim it is ahead of IL-2 - as you'd expect ten years down the line even with the mods - its just that its easy to be put off by all the bugs and I can sympathise with that. No it isn't fully ready yet, yes it's still not much more than beta, but there is an undeniable difference between the two simulations. Perhaps its only experienced at its potential best at 'full switch' settings as that is where some of the best features lie.

Of course it's a limited planeset and map options. There is only one planeset and only one serious map because this is just the first of many theatres and periods. In that respect its like IL-2 when it first came out. It's pointless to compare the scope of IL_2 with CoD.

Madblaster, no-one is saying IL_2 isn't a good sim or that it doesn't have CEM but there is more to the CoD CEM than just testing the mags etc.. It takes IL-2's CEM a stage further as it has more of an impact on combat than IL-2's CEM which is much more forgiving. The thing that keeps you in the air is your engine. It is a big consideration for a combat pilot but one that can be managed with practice and many of us don't want to macro away the experience. IL_2 has everything you say but a key phrase of yours is "if pilots choose to ignore it, they do get penalized". They get penalised in CoD too but much sooner and under a few more possibilities than in IL-2.

The combat experience is different, I think Blackdog_kt has nailed the basics in his last post. If CoD isn't what you want then let it go, fly IL-2.

LoBiSoMeM · #3 06-15-2011, 08:23 AM

The most anoying thing about this sick bunch blaming CloD is the simple fact that the new sim is just the new release, the evolution, of their beloved IL-2 series...

Why this people are so proud of IL-2 1946 modded and talk a lot of crap of IL-2 1946 "vanilla" and CloD?

I spend just about 200 euros to enjoy CloD and wait for BF3. A new 1GB Dx11 VGA.

What I really can see here is a bunch of lazy people or people with dated hardware that STILL talking crap.

JG52Krupi · #4 06-15-2011, 08:32 AM

Don't forget that a lot of them are probably trying to play on max settings and start to cry when it crashes

sad times

LLv26_Mikko · #5 06-15-2011, 09:24 AM

I think so that most people that have bought their rig like 1-2 years ago expected that COD runs smoothly on max settings. That just is not anyway posible. My old rig core2 duo 2.4Ghz whit 8G DDR2 was able to run smoothly medium settings -forest low -building ammount low. My old rig was 3 years old so i bought a new one.

Now i have:
Core i7 2600k 3,4Ghz
8GB DDR3 1600Mhz
Gainward GeForce GTX560 Ti Panthom 2GB
Asus P8P67

Now COD runs MAX settings whit AVG fps around 40.
I dropped building detail to medium (cant see any different when airborne)
Also i dropped forest to Medium (cant see any different when airborne)
After this modification to MAX settings i get AVG fps around 50. Depending on the ammount of AC at close range.

I tested my rig Whit MAX settings and whit total number of 125 planes in combat in radius of 3X3km and then fps avg dropped unplayable. Did same test whit 70 planes and it was playable only that AVG fps dropped to around 30.

Whit my old rig 30 planes was absolute limit whit medium settings.

MadBlaster · #6 06-15-2011, 09:56 AM

Guys, we aren't morons. I have CLoD. Cdr has CLoD. I think Stubing probably has the game. We all play at WoP Spit/109 for long time. I spent a bunch of time mapping out my controls for CLoD, writing macros for it and I tweaked my settings on my low end system enough to where I could dogfight with 109 just fine. I expected to be buying a new computer when CLoD came out. But the problem is all these "bugs" or just bad design/implementation totally unrelated to CEM/DM. So much so that it overshadows greatly the new CEM and DM models imho.

The question is do you want to spend the next year beta testing CLoD or do you want to spend your time playing upcoming UP 3.0? If you don't have the hardware, why invest in top end hardware for a beta CLoD game and then have that hardware obsolete by the time CLoD is polished a year from now? If you do have the hardware now, why waste your time on a beta game that may or may not ever be completed? At least we have reasonable assurance that UP 3.0 will rock. Vanilla, DT patches and community mods all rolled into one. You get the sounds, the maps...everything. Why not play that for now? We paid money for CLoD to be a complete game. They need to fix it. But it's been like 6 years and Oleg is gone. We're just being realistic I think. Hope to see you at spit/109 when they get 3.0 running.

JG52Krupi · #7 06-15-2011, 10:05 AM

Everything's in place it is basically complete, all they need to do is optimise the engine and then start work on new aircraft.

That's it we have the new engine yes it's bugged but thats hardly surprising. All we have to do is wait for more content to come along, which it will and like some others on this forum the level of detail in the models, DM and cem have blown me away. I haven't touched 1946 since cod arrived.

I just wish I could fly over London with 60 fps and when we can do that man everyone will finially have to open there eyes and see what a amazing job MG has done.

JG27CaptStubing · #8 06-15-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Don't forget that a lot of them are probably trying to play on max settings and start to cry when it crashes

sad times

Mine doesn't... So what is your point?

JG27CaptStubing · #9 06-15-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

The most anoying thing about this sick bunch blaming CloD is the simple fact that the new sim is just the new release, the evolution, of their beloved IL-2 series...

Why this people are so proud of IL-2 1946 modded and talk a lot of crap of IL-2 1946 "vanilla" and CloD?

I spend just about 200 euros to enjoy CloD and wait for BF3. A new 1GB Dx11 VGA.

What I really can see here is a bunch of lazy people or people with dated hardware that STILL talking crap.

Really? This is your argument? That people that don't have enough hardware to play CloD shouldn't make comments? Sorry man but it's a very weak attempt.

I have the hardware and like others have posted CloD is nothing more than a shell of a game at the moment. Sure it will improve but turning on Magnetos and flipping a prop switch is not going to hold interest for very long.

CloD is missing a ton of content... Just look at what was promised and see where that is at this time.

Maybe you need some coffee