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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-04-2011, 06:56 AM
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The metal wingtip was on fire? There's almost nothing to burn in a Hurricane wingtip. I think the DM needs a tweak.
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Old 06-04-2011, 08:39 AM
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The metal wingtip was on fire? There's almost nothing to burn in a Hurricane wingtip. I think the DM needs a tweak.
I could be wrong but I am pretty certain that the hurri was covered in fabric. Anyway if it wasn't phosphorus would certainly set aluminum ablaze.
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Old 06-04-2011, 09:39 AM
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I could be wrong but I am pretty certain that the hurri was covered in fabric. Anyway if it wasn't phosphorus would certainly set aluminum ablaze.
There were very few rag wing Hurricanes left at the start of BoB. The metal wings were a vast improvement, performance wise, on the rag wings and only took a little over 3 hours to convert to.

As far as a fire goes, it's (just) my opinion but I don't think a fabric wingtip or aileron at flying speed would catch fire without a good fire already going in the wing, assuming it used butyrate. (I'm a mechanic/pilot who's worked extensively with fabric aircraft so I'm ... an expert - lol) And as far as aluminum goes, it would likely be an unusual situation (in this context) where an aluminum alloy catches fire.

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Old 06-04-2011, 10:00 AM
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This is game physics, the physX stuff, so the event wasn't specifically modelled but the wheel movement was so it reacts. You won't see the same event like this twice, similar, but not the same.
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Old 06-04-2011, 01:07 PM
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There were very few rag wing Hurricanes left at the start of BoB. The metal wings were a vast improvement, performance wise, on the rag wings and only took a little over 3 hours to convert to.

As far as a fire goes, it's (just) my opinion but I don't think a fabric wingtip or aileron at flying speed would catch fire without a good fire already going in the wing, assuming it used butyrate. (I'm a mechanic/pilot who's worked extensively with fabric aircraft so I'm ... an expert - lol) And as far as aluminum goes, it would likely be an unusual situation (in this context) where an aluminum alloy catches fire.
Nowadays it's all about Dacron, but the good ol' linen caught fire like nothing,especially if hit by the fierce German incendiary/tracer rounds,think of the poor Wellingtons,burning down to their geodetic framework whilst airborne. In order for aluminium to catch fire you'd need at least a 20mm hit with a HE/I round, not impossible but still..
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Old 06-06-2011, 03:26 AM
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Nowadays it's all about Dacron, but the good ol' linen caught fire like nothing,especially if hit by the fierce German incendiary/tracer rounds,think of the poor Wellingtons,burning down to their geodetic framework whilst airborne. In order for aluminium to catch fire you'd need at least a 20mm hit with a HE/I round, not impossible but still..
I was actually thinking cotton/butyrate. Cotton/nitrate was practically explosive but SHOULD have been off the shelf for military aircraft before WW2, but maybe not in some cases as it is a much better adhesive - why it is still available today. One of the planes I take care of (a C120) has 34 year old linen/butyrate - still looks and tests like new (it's kept in a climate controlled hangar with a jet ...).
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Old 06-06-2011, 05:45 AM
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I heard that aluminum skin burned readily if there was a fair amount of magnesium in the alloy.

In any case, I take it that those fires don't happen often - mostly just the usual fuel tank stuff?
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Old 06-07-2011, 12:58 AM
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Check out this B-24 on fire. As far as I know, there are no fuel tanks in the fuselage. Other things can burn:

http://www.footnote.com/image/#29021348
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