Yet another week of running in the dark.

[Anvilfolk]

Jesus... do we need the dev team to babysit us? Go do something else and don't think about it.

There are no realistic or definite ETAs in software development, deal with it. We know what they're working on, and when something comes out, it'll be out.

Originally Posted by Anvilfolk

Jesus... do we need the dev team to babysit us? Go do something else and don't think about it.

you meant - Do we need to babysit this sim?

[Laszlo]

Originally Posted by Formula88

The man (Luthier) just made a post what, a week ago, saying that his prescence here might indicate lack of work on the game. For crying out loud, just sit back and have a cigar and cognac and WAIT for the next patch.

LUTHIER! Please take your time making us the best WW2 flight sim we will see in at least the nest 5-8 years and ignore these annoyances on the forum.
We know you and the team are doing your best and we can patiently wait like adults for your next release. Thanks again, and remember to take a few days off here and there.

No! You are wrong.

Give us a short message about the patchstatus or what they patching / fixing. Did they only patch his list of errors or did they fix our reported errors too?

[Ibis]

Oh God,
I've fallen into a kindergarten forum.
Sorry, don't think me a child molester I joined this forum by accident.
I thought it was about a flight simulator.
cheers.

[whatnot]

Originally Posted by Ibis

Oh God,
I've fallen into a kindergarten forum.
Sorry, don't think me a child molester I joined this forum by accident.
I thought it was about a flight simulator.
cheers.

I've always wondered about this anomaly happening throughout the web forums: the moment people see a text not to their liking then #1 comment is about the author being a child.

For us geezer like me it feels pretty good actually.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Formula88

The man (Luthier) just made a post what, a week ago, saying that his prescence here might indicate lack of work on the game. For crying out loud, just sit back and have a cigar and cognac and WAIT for the next patch.

LUTHIER! Please take your time making us the best WW2 flight sim we will see in at least the nest 5-8 years and ignore these annoyances on the forum.
We know you and the team are doing your best and we can patiently wait like adults for your next release. Thanks again, and remember to take a few days off here and there.

110% agreed. Excellent post.

[Winger]

Originally Posted by Anvilfolk

Jesus... do we need the dev team to babysit us? Go do something else and don't think about it.

There are no realistic or definite ETAs in software development, deal with it. We know what they're working on, and when something comes out, it'll be out.

i said "aimed to be", not when it will be ULTIMATETOTALLYREALISTICDEFINATELYFORSURE
You smart (ie)

Winger

PS: I am not asking them to everyday tell us whats going on in their office. But 2 sentences every week that wether say: "We are working and getting close to solve problem XY" OR "We nailed problem XY and are currently working to resolve it. At the moment we cant tell any ETA". Or something like that. THIS in fact would serve the community to feel informed and threads like this would not even appear on the forums.

[609_Huetz]

Easy equation, since quite a few guys tend to lurk around these forums, looking for news:

Good Community Management = News about Fixes,Updates, etc. = Sales

Bad Community Management = No News = Less Sales

Easy as that. It's one thing to release a broken product because you are running short on funds or your publisher wants it out, but it's a completely different thing to drop a blanket over the mess and pretend it is not there. I do work a lot as well, yet when I have to do stuff like this, I usually do find some 2-3 minutes to write an email or a memo, no matter how busy I am. It's called marketing, something that should have by now been imported to Russia, just like into any other country. No offence, but it's not that hard.

No need for the smarta**ery "they don't need to babysit us".

[philip.ed]

Maybe it's just a sign that they are incredibly busy? Luthier said that if he isn't around the forums a lot, then it's a sign that they are hard at work.
Regarding a forum manager, then that will come when the team decide to introduce him/her. Whenever this will be only they can say. I am sure that they all know what the community wants/expects, so I don't think we need to worry that they are completely detached (despite what CloD's release might say about them).

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Maybe it's just a sign that they are incredibly busy? Luthier said that if he isn't around the forums a lot, then it's a sign that they are hard at work.
Regarding a forum manager, then that will come when the team decide to introduce him/her. Whenever this will be only they can say. I am sure that they all know what the community wants/expects, so I don't think we need to worry that they are completely detached (despite what CloD's release might say about them).

I think it's more of a sign that they appear to have little concern about the folk who purchase their product(s), it seems it's all about the money now, I guess it has to be, all the work being done at this moment in time is aimed purely at American sales.
Have we ever had an official apology and some sort of explanation as to why we were sold a product that they knew was unfinished, yet at the same time continued to deceive us right up to release? I'm certain If they truly cared we would have had that humble statement from the dev's, not even a 'sorry guys' from Oleg whose been lucky to have enjoyed such a loyal following for all these years. I'm sure that had they had the decency to make such a statement that they would of been forgiven by the mass majority for the poor state of the game upon release. Until that statement is made then I personally have little trust or faith in what this current team do or say, 'actions speak louder than words'.