This cant be realistic - 500+ hits, plane still flying??

[ElAurens]

There are plenty of historical references to He 111s returning to base with hundreds of .303 rounds in them.

Why do you think the RAF went to 20mm Hispanos as soon as they could get them reliable?

The.303 British cartridge, like all .30+/- inch rifle caliber machine guns were totally out dated relics of the WW1 era, as far as aerial combat goes.

[LoBiSoMeM]

I can shoot down everything in this sim with Spits and Hurricanes.

Aim right. In Cliffs Of Dover you can shoot at heavy bomber precisely, in engines, pilots, gunners... The AI gunners aren't snipers.

Just train a little bit.

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

There are plenty of historical references to He 111s returning to base with hundreds of .303 rounds in them.

Why do you think the RAF went to 20mm Hispanos as soon as they could get them reliable?

The.303 British cartridge, like all .30+/- inch rifle caliber machine guns were totally out dated relics of the WW1 era, as far as aerial combat goes.

Sure things

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by ReconNZ

dead astern one

That's exactly the problem. You're firing a bunch of rifle caliber rounds in line with the angle where all the armor is concentrated.

Originally Posted by ReconNZ

Lets keep a scorecard - what's your record - most hits without downing a plane???

What's the most planes one can down before ammo runs out would be a more interesting scorecard
He111s are sturdier than others, try the Do17s if you want to practice a bit and see some results. I can easily down 3-5 with a Hurricane.

In general, +1 to what the other guys said in their advice. Also, try a Hurricane as the guns on that one are more closely grouped together and it's more stable, it will give you a much better concentration of rounds.

[ariyaner]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhkmN...layer_embedded

[Widowmaker214]

While the 303 is a crap round for trying to take down an aircraft...

dont, forget, your convergence.

I havnt really checked to much on it in COD yet... but standard in IL2 was quite a bit out.

I prefer to do my gunning at under 200 yards. Depending on the aircraft, I usually set a convergence of between 150 and 200 yards.. and thats where I do my shooting.

If you are trying to hit the engine, (or any specific spot) convergence makes all the difference in the world. IF you are not flying AT your convergence distance, and put your cross hairs on the engine..you're going to miss it. Plain and simple. your bullets will either fly on either side of it.. or they will cross before the engine and still fly by on either side.

Having looked at it briefly in COD, it looks like you can set the convergence for each pair of guns (correct me if Im wrong) (also it looks like you can adjust elevation on COD which you couldnt in IL2)

In that case,you could set half at say 150 or 200. then the other half at 200-250 (depending on where you like to shoot from) That way you can get a good punch through a range of distance. 150 for one set.. 200 for the other. Gives you good hit power through a 50+ yard range.

whatever you decide though.. convergence is a big deal.

[BP_Tailspin]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

There are plenty of historical references to He 111s returning to base with hundreds of .303 rounds in them.

Why do you think the RAF went to 20mm Hispanos as soon as they could get them reliable?

The.303 British cartridge, like all .30+/- inch rifle caliber machine guns were totally out dated relics of the WW1 era, as far as aerial combat goes.

Heres some interesting reading.

Clik here -----> http://www.findonvillage.com/0617_th...ugust_1940.htm

And -----> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=21494