and.. Why not Armée de l´air and low countryes next?

[Wutz]

Originally Posted by csThor

Pardon the frank speech but both online and the "human factor" are grossly overrated. Unless you have a tight-knit bunch of people with exactly the same ideas about gameplay you get inflated egos, dogfight fixation, an underlying sportive contest menthality and not to forget little more than a steady gangbang. I rather cope with the faults of the AI - which will at least fly everything I put it into without moaning and whining and demanding "fairness" - than waste my precious freetime on an online environment that doesn't give me anything ... except a headache.

+1 on that, even though I am mainly a online flier, but those "inflated egos" and "wanna be commander-in-chiefs" on coms are a pain in the butt, for me always a reason to stay off coms unless certain people are online, otherwise coms, thanks but no thanks.....listing to screaming kids is not what I call, a good pass time. Not even going to mention the way these people fly either.
As no matter what flight sim, the vast majority don´t give a hoot about missions or objectives, but just want to gangbang. Fine for those that like that. But there are also plenty that have a differant view on that, even though they seldom voice their views here. The only common ground is the flight sim, thats it. But certainly not wishing to spend time with such people with which there is just one single common point.

As to the original topic yes I would be all for more early war scenarios, but I fear as usual the kids who just care about their late war hot rods will get their wishes heard again, and the others will most likely have to find something else.
My time is too precious to spend it with inflated egos, and gangbanging hot rod freaks.

[JG53Frankyboy]

but at least one cant say that the 'possible' "Battle of Moskau" scenario is full of 'late war monsters'

there are a lot of possible "crap planes" and there will be lot of possibilites for mudmoving i will just miss the possible shipattacks that would be possible with a 41 or (for the Spitfire pilots ) 42 MTO scenario. Not to speak about carrier operations with the FAA
and as a Martlet (as a Grumman product ) might be questionable, i can see Fulmars, SeaHurricanes and Swordfishes for that !!
perhaps in 5 years from now on....

[Wutz]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

but at least one cant say that the 'possible' "Battle of Moskau" scenario is full of 'late war monsters'

there are a lot of possible "crap planes" and there will be lot of possibilites for mudmoving i will just miss the possible shipattacks that would be possible with a 41 or (for the Spitfire pilots ) 42 MTO scenario. Not to speak about carrier operations with the FAA
and as a Martlet (as a Grumman product ) might be questionable, i can see Fulmars, SeaHurricanes and Swordfishes for that !!
perhaps in 5 years from now on....

Oh no need to look at Grumman products, there are other aircraft that where in fair use that are almost always forgoten, like this one:

Usage:
Defense of Malta

The No. 431 General Reconnaissance Flight received the first Marylands in October 1940.2,3
Taranto

The Marylands provided the reconnaissance of Taranto Harbor before the Swordfish attacked the Italian Navy.

Is also mentioned in trainings films like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXMRT...3EEFF99C570AB3

Originally Posted by Wutz

+1 on that, even though I am mainly a online flier, but those "inflated egos" and "wanna be commander-in-chiefs" on coms are a pain in the butt, for me always a reason to stay off coms unless certain people are online, otherwise coms, thanks but no thanks.....listing to screaming kids is not what I call, a good pass time. Not even going to mention the way these people fly either.
As no matter what flight sim, the vast majority don´t give a hoot about missions or objectives, but just want to gangbang. Fine for those that like that. But there are also plenty that have a differant view on that, even though they seldom voice their views here. The only common ground is the flight sim, thats it. But certainly not wishing to spend time with such people with which there is just one single common point.

As to the original topic yes I would be all for more early war scenarios, but I fear as usual the kids who just care about their late war hot rods will get their wishes heard again, and the others will most likely have to find something else.
My time is too precious to spend it with inflated egos, and gangbanging hot rod freaks.

From the sound of things you have never actually been in comms, theres no screaming kids and commander in chief wannabes. Do I have to be a kid to like fast, beautiful and deadly aircraft? Oh wait, since you like slow and disadvanted aircraft you must be a real "man"! Give me a break... And inflated egos are quickly deflated by a few good rounds in the right place. Your time is so precious you would rather spend it playing with yourself? I mean thats what offline flying is right? Have fun with that, isnt that what all the "kids" are doing too?

[ATAG_Bliss]

Online is definitely fun. The coms part is what really makes it. If you have a laid back atmosphere you can easily find yourself getting in trouble at work because of lack of sleep There are going to be those that care about stats or whine when they get shot down.

But when you go at with the fun it's supposed to be, it doesn't get much better than flying in a team. IL2 is infamous for it's crap planes. There's nothing like getting 8-10 of your squad together with everyone jumping in a TB3, expecting full well to get destroyed

But I would not be playing any flight sims if I wasn't talking to my mates. It add soo much more to flying. And then when you hop it up into a SEOW or ADW type situation, or a fully immersed depiction of war with a bunch of your squad, it's almost exhausting and exhilarating at the same time. But soo worth it.

I can not stand SP and that's no offense to anyone that likes it. But when I know I'm flying or participating against a robot, I just can't seem to feel really there. And that's the point to me. Humans make the sims as dynamic as it can be. And after all the MP stability issues / game issues are sorted, expect to see many ongoing online campaigns from us.

To each their own, but if you haven't given coms or MP a chance, hop in our coms and prepare to have fun

And bring plenty of this: (Thanks to Kristorf!)

[Wutz]

Originally Posted by Formula88

From the sound of things you have never actually been in comms, theres no screaming kids and commander in chief wannabes. Do I have to be a kid to like fast, beautiful and deadly aircraft? Oh wait, since you like slow and disadvanted aircraft you must be a real "man"! Give me a break... And inflated egos are quickly deflated by a few good rounds in the right place. Your time is so precious you would rather spend it playing with yourself? I mean thats what offline flying is right? Have fun with that, isnt that what all the "kids" are doing too?

Keep on guessing you are not even close.
Your furball gangbang plane don´t interest me the slightest bit at all so keep on wanking about your beautiful and deadly what ever......