German Prop Pitch Lever

[Siegfried]

And maybe all german planes too. Is that the reason for propeller pitch indicator on cockpit i think.

[pupo162]

the luftwinner inside me says this would evne complicate things more for ze 109...

why cnat we have normal radiator??? i mean, its a normal cranck, its so stupid i cant amually place the level i want like any other rad in game...

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bob1940/images/cockpit1092.jpg this also... i really wish for our CSP


luftwhine off//

[IvanK]

Originally Posted by pupo162

the luftwinner inside me says this would evne complicate things more for ze 109...

why cnat we have normal radiator??? i mean, its a normal cranck, its so stupid i cant amually place the level i want like any other rad in game...

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bob1940/images/cockpit1092.jpg this also... i really wish for our CSP


luftwhine off//

There are 4 Possibilities with Prop pitch on the 109E.

OPTION 1
As we have it now Straight variable pitch (no CSU) with pitch controlled by the main panel
spring loaded to centre lever. Only error in the modelling here is that the lever is not spring loaded to the centre position.

OPTION 2
Lever on the main panel was removed and a Rocker Switch on the throttle used. Still straight variable pitch (no CSU)
blanking plate fitted over the hole left in the main panel.

OPTION 3
Auto function with CSU fitted as a field mod. This did not come into service until late 1940. Available documentation indicates Squadron use starting in early Nov 1940. The RAF Hendon E3 has this system. It was shot down on 21st or 23rd Nov 1940. An additional switch was located below the throttle to allow the Auto system to be turned off. When off the Rocker was used as in option 2. We know its field mod in this aircraft as a blanking plate has been placed to cover the hole left by removal of the panel switch. The blanking plate also having the hand written note reminding the pilot that this aircraft is now fitted with the Auto system.

OPTION 4
Auto fitted at factory level. These aircraft can be identified by the lack of a blanking plate on the main panel

So modelling is correct (other than spring to centre), we just dont yet have the late 1940 Auto system ... it will eventually be there.

[heloguy]

After reading this article, I was definitely hoping to have the option for the auto mode soon:

http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNe...tt-Bf-109.aspx

I have an older magazine with an article about this 109 that explains that it was actually flown by Marseille in the Battle of Britain (hence the number 14), and was crash landed on the beach in France by him. The aircraft was then refitted and sent to the Eastern front, where it was crashed in a bog, being preserved until it was found a few years back.

Anyway, note how this pilot says that he sees the switch to turn on and off the auto mode, but the mechanic tells him that while installed, they haven't gotten it working yet.

I guess, though, there's always the chance that this particular model had it installed after Marseille crashed it.

[Kurfurst]

Originally Posted by IvanK

There are 4 Possibilities with Prop pitch on the 109E.

OPTION 1
As we have it now Straight variable pitch (no CSU) with pitch controlled by the main panel
spring loaded to centre lever. Only error in the modelling here is that the lever is not spring loaded to the centre position.

OPTION 2
Lever on the main panel was removed and a Rocker Switch on the throttle used. Still straight variable pitch (no CSU)
blanking plate fitted over the hole left in the main panel.

OPTION 3
Auto function with CSU fitted as a field mod. This did not come into service until late 1940. Available documentation indicates Squadron use starting in early Nov 1940. The RAF Hendon E3 has this system. It was shot down on 21st or 23rd Nov 1940. An additional switch was located below the throttle to allow the Auto system to be turned off. When off the Rocker was used as in option 2. We know its field mod in this aircraft as a blanking plate has been placed to cover the hole left by removal of the panel switch. The blanking plate also having the hand written note reminding the pilot that this aircraft is now fitted with the Auto system.

OPTION 4
Auto fitted at factory level. These aircraft can be identified by the lack of a blanking plate on the main panel

So modelling is correct (other than spring to centre), we just dont yet have the late 1940 Auto system ... it will eventually be there.

The information regarding the date of availibilty of the auto function is wrong.

The Bf 109E1 and E-3 manual of December 1939 already notes the automatic system (Verstellautomatik), and gives different operating instructions to those planes with the old manual system ("Options 1 and 2") and the auto prop pitch system.

Auto and manual props pitch systems also had differently designated VDM propellor type numbers.