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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-15-2011, 09:19 PM
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+1, as accurate as you can get it thx

ps, will the 109 weights be fixed in mondays patch?
When bombs are loaded?
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Old 04-15-2011, 09:29 PM
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When bombs are loaded?
without bombs 109 shows as being over takeoff weight. E3 is the same.
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Old 04-15-2011, 09:51 PM
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+ 1 million

This is the first real sim i've owned since ms flight sim 1998 and i'm loving it!

Spitfires and realism is what it is all about!
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:38 PM
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full realism is a must in COD
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:50 PM
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Mechanical cable driven tachometers do not have 1000 rpm swings in their readings unless the drive cable is severely frayed, kinked, or otherwise totally worn out. What we have now is totally wrong.

Also the problem with Neg G cut out was happening in level flight with properly trimmed aircraft. It's not about push overs, which indeed should cause engine cut out.

Please don't make this a Red vs. Blue issue trying to compensate for the perceived over modeling of the Spitfire in IL2.
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Old 04-16-2011, 12:24 AM
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Mechanical cable driven tachometers do not have 1000 rpm swings in their readings unless the drive cable is severely frayed, kinked, or otherwise totally worn out. What we have now is totally wrong..
Absoloutely agree! The 'oscillation' and deviation was too exaggerated but could be part of damage/fault modelling.
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Old 04-16-2011, 12:28 AM
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I agree, keep it as real as possible please. All the others can go play BoP if this sim is too confusing.
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Old 04-16-2011, 12:26 AM
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Mechanical cable driven tachometers do not have 1000 rpm swings in their readings unless the drive cable is severely frayed, kinked, or otherwise totally worn out. What we have now is totally wrong.

Also the problem with Neg G cut out was happening in level flight with properly trimmed aircraft. It's not about push overs, which indeed should cause engine cut out.

Please don't make this a Red vs. Blue issue trying to compensate for the perceived over modeling of the Spitfire in IL2.
See, that's what's really starting to P+++ ME OFF!. Could you please upload a youtube file of you, in person, flying a RL spitfire or hurricane. Please hold up a sign that reads: "[Your nick] greets the banana forum". Then focus the cam on the rpm indicator. Thank you.

In any other event, I tend to believe the developers because they FKIN INTRODUCED IT in the first place! I'm pretty damn sure that they didn't just think: "Oh well, let's just add some random dial movement, but only on the rpm gauge. This will be awsum fun guyz". Right?

In any way, I hope this will be reverted and we'll get back the proper stuff. I mean, the 2s bomb arming delay was also a great improvement towards realism in Il2-1946 (though it threw certain people's mad skip bombing skillz off, despite others adapting in less than 15 min.) and we should continue to stay on this track, amirite?

Also, lol @ the guy on page 4 or 5 who doesn't really understand what his "hurricane pilot" writes.
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Old 04-16-2011, 12:44 AM
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See, that's what's really starting to P+++ ME OFF!. Could you please upload a youtube file of you, in person, flying a RL spitfire or hurricane. Please hold up a sign that reads: "[Your nick] greets the banana forum". Then focus the cam on the rpm indicator. Thank you.

In any other event, I tend to believe the developers because they FKIN INTRODUCED IT in the first place! I'm pretty damn sure that they didn't just think: "Oh well, let's just add some random dial movement, but only on the rpm gauge. This will be awsum fun guyz". Right?
Maybe this will pee you off too......quoted from TD member in the latest patch thread....take it up with him and maybe.....the pilots?



To those stating things like bring back the bouncing tacho needles etc because they were more realistic etc sorry but that is BS.

Real pilots are providing input. in this case the input comes from a current Spitfire MKVII and MKXVI pilot.

The alteration of the G cut out comes from multiple pilots, a Merlin and DB601/605 engine restorer, a current Hurricane II, Spitfire II pilot and a Hurricane I pilot. So before you start making sweeping statements like the devs are responding to 'the few' whinners then check your facts.

The devs have direct access to a number of current warbird pilots. One for instance is current on the following types:

Winjeel,Wirraway,Spitfire MKVII and MKXVI, P51D,P40E,P40F,Hudson,Harvard, and Vampire.
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Old 04-16-2011, 05:29 AM
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See, that's what's really starting to P+++ ME OFF!. Could you please upload a youtube file of you, in person, flying a RL spitfire or hurricane. Please hold up a sign that reads: "[Your nick] greets the banana forum". Then focus the cam on the rpm indicator. Thank you.

In any other event, I tend to believe the developers because they FKIN INTRODUCED IT in the first place! I'm pretty damn sure that they didn't just think: "Oh well, let's just add some random dial movement, but only on the rpm gauge. This will be awsum fun guyz". Right?

In any way, I hope this will be reverted and we'll get back the proper stuff. I mean, the 2s bomb arming delay was also a great improvement towards realism in Il2-1946 (though it threw certain people's mad skip bombing skillz off, despite others adapting in less than 15 min.) and we should continue to stay on this track, amirite?

Also, lol @ the guy on page 4 or 5 who doesn't really understand what his "hurricane pilot" writes.

Have you even seen a cable driven tacho on any vehicle of any kind?

I highly doubt it.

I have.

Just another manifestation of the twisted mantra chanted by guys hiding in their cellar playing video games... to wit... "Harder must be more real".
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