Frequent post-patch crashes/reboots from game

[E69_vencejo]

Originally Posted by E69_vencejo

hi,
i have same problem. After patch blue screen (before patch launcher problem finally solved).
I test temperatures but i don´t see any problem:
First run gpuz for temperatures log.
Blue screen is with 90/91º celsius in my ring.
Then i stress graphic card with occt and with afterburner i up/down ventilators for check what happend with high temperature.
At 97º celcius, all clocks diminish its value automatically until reach 87º. Then clocks go up to 100% again.
No blue screen, no reboot.

I have the feeling that many have appeared blue screen right after i press a button or axis, or both, but this is very subjective .

i5 750, 4G ram, p55-ud5, xfi, asus 570, 1000w power, tir and x52.

You might be right Russkly.
I repeat test again and no blue screens have been flying about 1 hour (until now never flew so long without errors).
I checked the maximum temperature and were 80 ° Celsius.

[Russkly]

Right, after some more testing (delayed when a Firefox-inspired System Restore screwed up Steam so that I couldn't get into CoD!) it is clear that CoD is baking my GPU.

First off: GPU controlled by ASUS SmartDoctor software. HyperDrive on but set to Cooling mode, not to 3D Games mode. Fan on Auto. So, GPU will be driven to run cool rather than run performance.

I turned the res down to 1600x1200 and flew the 6 Hurris vs 6 109s over water quick mission without problems (at game settings posted earlier in this thread).

Hoorah!

Then got cocky and tried the Hurris vs Ju-87s over Manston quick mission at 1680x1050.

No problems over water, but as soon as I came over land to head home - bang!!!! PC reboots itself.

SmartDoctor doesn't have a log facility like MSI Afterburner, but, having used the latter, I am sure that the GPU was maxed out at that point and simply rebooted the PC to avoid heat damage.

I'm not sure what to do now - I'm loathe to turn the settings down further, because they're hardly maxed out, and my system's not that bad (is it?). And I don't really want to install some water-cooling system for 1 game - RoF never gives me this problem on pretty high settings for example, and nor does Arma 2.

Any thoughts? Will any of the upcoming patches address this; or is it something I'm doing wrong; or is my GPU simply too wimpy?

Shame, because @ 1900x1200 at the game settings above, it looks wonderful.

R

[E69_vencejo]

Russkly
It is very difficult for me understand inglish. When you say:
"(delayed when a Firefox-inspired System Restore screwed up Steam so that I couldn't get into CoD!)"
You meant that you make sistem restore?
If this is correct, then please, make a graphic card log (gpu-z is good) and check clocks too.
Before the blue screen problem solution, i did a restore sistem.
I'm not very sure even the problem is the temperature, then i repeated again the test, and the surprise was that when prior to the restore, the graphics card was everything 100%, then now it does not exceed 60% (before flying with all the options middle, 100% graphic card working, and after, witch all options to full without loss of fps's or stutters increased after 1 minute).
I think there is something that escapes us. Visor events have launcher and net 4.0 errors even. The difference is that now i don´t have reboots or blue screens
Thanks Russkly

[Russkly]

Originally Posted by E69_vencejo

Russkly
It is very difficult for me understand inglish. When you say:
"(delayed when a Firefox-inspired System Restore screwed up Steam so that I couldn't get into CoD!)"
You meant that you make sistem restore?
If this is correct, then please, make a graphic card log (gpu-z is good) and check clocks too.
Before the blue screen problem solution, i did a restore sistem.
I'm not very sure even the problem is the temperature, then i repeated again the test, and the surprise was that when prior to the restore, the graphics card was everything 100%, then now it does not exceed 60% (before flying with all the options middle, 100% graphic card working, and after, witch all options to full without loss of fps's or stutters increased after 1 minute).
I think there is something that escapes us. Visor events have launcher and net 4.0 errors even. The difference is that now i don´t have reboots or blue screens
Thanks Russkly

Sorry for the lack of clarity, Vencejo.

What happened was that I had an Adobe Flash plug-in problem with Firefox 3.6 so installed Firefox 4. After that Firefox crashed every time I tried to open it. So eventually I did a system restore, after which Steam would not work - kept saying that it was connecting to my account and then nothing would happen. I then spent all day uninstalling and reinstalling Steam until it worked.

In short, the crashes have nothing to do with the system restore - they were happening before that.

So, where are we now?

I'm now settled at 1680x1050 with settings as above except for buildings now very low and shading low.

I played the bomber intercept over London QM with no problems, and even turned shading up to medium, because it looks better than at low.

Then tried the dogfight QM with Ju-88s, 109s, Spits & Hurris (over water) - crash/reboot just a couple of minutes in.

Using GPU-Z (thx for the tip) the temps are up at 75c max (which shouldn't be a huge problem) with the fan running at max. Strangely, according to GPU-Z the GPU loading doesn't appear to be maxed out (although difficult to tell from the *.txt file) but runs at about 30%. Core clock, memory clock and shader clock are all maxed out, however, so I don't understand why GPU load would only be 30%.

So, I'm perplexed.

I can't really play the game, though, because it's clearly not good for the PC to be rebooting itself - this indicates major trauma, no?

Also, it means restarting everything (TrackIR, plug in joystick, disable anti-virus, open Steam, run game, select mission, wait for loading, etc.).

Anybody please help me understand what is going wrong?

Am I just being too ambitious with the settings?

R

[E69_vencejo]

Thanks Russkly.

I do not know why the problems have now disappeared after doing a system restore. I cross my fingers.
If it's any help, the only difference between before and after the restore is that now, in uninstall / change program windows, I have only this:

Microsoft visual c + + redistributable 10.0.30319 2010x86

When before had two visual c + + 2010 for to uninstall / change. Sorry I did not remember what exactly.


Ah, i forget it. I use a new controls perfil too.

[MD_Titus]

I seem to be getting the reboots mostly when hitting a bomber from dead 6 and zoomed into the 30 degree fov...

[Russkly]

I tried the same "Aerial Battle" QM (where it's Spits & Hurris vs 109s & Ju-88s over the channel) with MD = M, VE = M and DD = M.

Played right through until landing (on "Easy" settings just for this test).

Once the actual dogfighting section was over, I switched those 3 elements back to High without problems (not really surprising, I suppose, given that there was no longer any damage to model, for example).

Therefore, I'm going to do the following:

• Wait for the next patch (to see if any optimisation places less stress on my GPU, which seems to be what is causing the reboots).
• Apply the kegetys mods, if something similar hasn't been included in the next patch (haven't seen any official response to these mods).
• Upgrade the GPU to a GTX570! Yup, €300 just to play this game, pretty much.

Questions:

1. GTX570 or Radeon 6950/70? Will only really be used for CoD, RoF & ARMA 2.
2. When starting the QMs, how do you select the plane you want to fly? In the mission above there are Hurris & Spits, and I wanted to fly the Hurri, so I clicked on that icon and the briefing changed accordingly (i.e. target bombers), but then I end up flying a Spit.

Oh, so many questions!

R

[E69_vencejo]

You must click on the little pilot over aircraft´s window. Highlight pilot is the aircraft that you will fly.

[SQB]

Gah, I'm really frustrated!
Before patch: 25fps (reasonable) over london, barely any stutters.
After patch: Well, the game doesn't start, just has the steam "opening game" box and then "launcher has stopped working."

I don't know what to do, all files validated successfully, I re-installed, and It didn't install anything in my documents, which I thought was odd so I checked all files again, again it said all files were fine.

How can all files be fine if the game doesn't run...?

If anyone has any tips or suggestions it would be MUCH appreciated.

[Gromic]

Hi Chaps,

I'm also having stability issues since the last patch. Actually two issues.

Aftter a certain time, the game minimizes to desktop and will not resume fullscreen when clicking on the taskbar button unless I push ESC, at which point, it goes back to fullscreen in the game menu. If I then push fly or attempt to start a new mission, the game will again minimize to desktop. I can only quit the game and restart it again. This will give me another hour of airtime after which - rinse and repeat.

OR

After having flown a number of missions, the game will cause a complete reboot of the PC. There is no warning, or any kind of texture tearing, flickering, stuttering etc. that will indicate a reboot about to occur. One minute your flying and the next minute the screen goes black into POST. It also doesn't matter if I'm engaged in combat or picking a virtual nose in cockpit.

I can't point the finger to any overheating issues with my GPU. On a second screen, I have afterburner showing the running GPU stats. Temps never go over 56° on full load and that's with playing over an hour. The used graphics memory does tend to stay at around 95-100% for the duration of flight.

One thing that did catch my eye, was the memory managment of "launcher.exe". While running sysinternals process explorer tool simultaneously with the game, I noticed that "launcher.exe" will never flush used memory after quitting a mission. It just keeps adding another ~400MB per flown mission until it gets to around 2,5GB total allocated RAM. That's when the game either minimizes to desktop or causes a complete reboot.

32bit memory leak issues?


Cheers