Game is Unplayable

Originally Posted by bongodriver

and some people are doing their best to make sure it does.....

unfortunately, their best is not enough as empiric facts say... But real problem is not their best or lack of skill, the problem is in the philosophy of this sim.

Goal of this sim is to simulate perfectly (if possible) planes, FM, DM, CEM, weather, turbulence etc... . But it is missing crucially simulation of virtual "pilots", squadrons, Battle of Britain theatre as whole... It is critically lacking what's called "social gaming" today... This is even worse and fatal than old MIDI sounds of guns or that Skins are in wrong directory or anything like that...

[bongodriver]

But it is missing crucially simulation of virtual "pilots", squadrons, Battle of Britain theatre as whole... It is critically lacking what's called "social gaming" today... This is even worse and fatal than old MIDI sounds of guns or that Skins are in wrong directory or anything like that..

after 6 days of european release and still waiting on a north american release I am not exactly surprised it hasn't got it's own community yet.........it just surprises me that others from an apparently 'social' community are so anti-social about this sim and just want to see it die.

Originally Posted by PE_Tigar

Not to sound like a dull old person, but it seems that the youngsters today are living their lives like computer games rather than living the life and gaming separately. In that vein, Angry Birds are par for the course for majority of users, while WoW etc. are there for the hardcore dorky part of the population.

With regards to the platform - less and less and less people are willing to splash out on huge, cumbersome, complicated and unreliable gaming PCs, more and more are satisfied with the console for gaming+tablet or netbook for internet browsing.

So let's face it - we'll have a world where nobody is playing flight sims, except for those playing real-life flight sims (like everyone flying Airbuses, modern military planes or UAVs )... I'd say in 20 years or so.

You don't need to be a mainstream with millions of virtual pilots... Nice result would be to have around 5000 players on Steam as average... now it is 630?

This new game is sitting on Steam between 1 year old games... One above Rome Total War... Come on, you can't be happy about this result just one week after release...

[recoilfx]

Originally Posted by Opitz

I know it is not posted in correct forum or thread, but let's share it here, because I think your post is very interesting and even MORE important to realize...

I am creator of Hitler and IL2: CoD rant video, and youtube offers quite nice demography statistic based on the viewers.

What I see on statistics, probably quite a surprise for many - huge majority (more than 70%) of viewers are older than 35 years... 13-17 is absolute minimum... even there are more people 65+ than these youngsters... And btw... 97% of all are men...

It is empiric findings - this community is getting old, it is in fact old. And I think this is the biggest problem of the flight sim game segment, which has to be addressed if you want to have nice and modern sims in future too.

Right now, this game failed to attract young people (or newbies)... There is nothing which would take them away from FPS or RTS games. Next combat flight sim has to be written completely differently, if they would like to attract young men (or newbies).

It is a must, to accept the real empiric data. It is a must to create a sim in balance of technical beauty with "gaming" beauty, which is attractive also to the young people.

Btw... it was viewed by around 10 500 people. I don't think all of them are IL2 only virtual pilots. Many viewed it just because of nostalgia, because they used to fly in IL2 few years ago... it doesn't look like big community, big market segment. In fact it look like this community is shrinking... let's say, dying slowly...

And having this in mind, it must be said by anyone who is really loving PC combat flight sims - to Oleg, Luthier, whoever will pick this fallen flag from mud - Not this way next time. Learn from the mistakes of others and do it differently.. Please...

Not to mention that people constantly berate Wings of Prey for trying to bridge the gap between arcade and realism. It's one of the best realized product we have in ages, that really tries to bridge the gap, yet people just stomp on it.

Old geezers.

[bongodriver]

Not to mention that people constantly berate Wings of Prey for trying to bridge the gap between arcade and realism. It's one of the best realized product we have in ages, that really tries to bridge the gap, yet people just stomp on it.

Old geezers.

personally I wouldn't condone criticising WOP, it does what it does very well and it does look very nice, it just doesn't satisfy the more sim based sensitivity, what I notice is quite the opposite, people are trying to flog ClOD to death by comparing it to IL2(modded) or WOP......quite unfair.

[etzi]

There is another statement from gamestar.de one of the biggest german computer games magazines.

http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/il-2-s...6,2322049.html

"They refuse to test the game, because they have 3 well-equipped computers in editorial office and the game is actuall not properly playable."

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by etzi

There is another statement from gamestar.de one of the biggest german computer games magazines.

http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/il-2-s...6,2322049.html

"They refuse to test the game, because they have 3 well-equipped computers in editorial office and the game is actuall not properly playable."

What's your point?

[bongodriver]

There is another statement from gamestar.de one of the biggest german computer games magazines.

http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/il-2-s...6,2322049.html

"They refuse to test the game, because they have 3 well-equipped computers in editorial office and the game is actuall not properly playable."

I can see you rubbing your hands together and laughing..........do you feel good now? maybe youd like to pull the wings off some flies or strangle a puppy too?

Originally Posted by bongodriver

personally I wouldn't condone criticising WOP, it does what it does very well and it does look very nice, it just doesn't satisfy the more sim based sensitivity, what I notice is quite the opposite, people are trying to flog ClOD to death by comparing it to IL2(modded) or WOP......quite unfair.

Maybe it is unfair, but it is even more than unfair what Maddox Games has created and sold to their loyal and loving customers...

[bongodriver]

Maybe it is unfair, but it is even more than unfair what Maddox Games is created and sold to their loyal and loving customers...

Don't make me laugh.....if any of you were loyal you'd be slightly sympathetic, all I see are back stabbing creeps.