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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-04-2011, 04:16 AM
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Now the really weird thing when the panel is set to closed, if you go on externals you can see the radiator is open. When the panel is open, the radiator looks closed.
I just saw the same thing for the first time when I was flying a couple of minutes ago. I could be wrong (and probably am), but I think what you're seeing on the externals is the air intake opening and closing. So, when you see the air intake is 'closed' at the back, the radiator itself is now having the air directed into it, so therefore the radiator is 'open' or being cooled.

In terms of applying controls to it in game, I had to tick the reverse setting to make my buttons match the indicator in the cockpit.

Anyone know if there's an in-cockpit indicator for the oil radiator too, or doesn't the Hurricane have one?

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Old 04-04-2011, 08:41 AM
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The mixture is bugged, Rich=Lean and Lean=Rich. Set to Lean (as seen in the cockpit) for Rich. To check this you can open an information window - Alt+Right Click IIRC - and select Engine for Info, it will show you 100% when it really is Rich and 0% for Lean. My friends also tell me the Radiator is reversed too. Haven't checked that myself as I fly with Engine Temperature effects off while I get used to it (Luthier's recommendation).
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Old 04-04-2011, 10:27 AM
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I just saw the same thing for the first time when I was flying a couple of minutes ago. I could be wrong, but I think what you're seeing on the externals is the air intake opening and closing. So, when you see the air intake is 'closed' at the back, the radiator itself is now having the air directed into it, so therefore the radiator is 'open' or being cooled.

In terms of applying controls to it in game, I had to tick the reverse setting to make my buttons match the indicator in the cockpit.

Anyone know if there's an in-cockpit indicator for the oil radiator too, or doesn't the Hurricane have one?
Isn't the oil radiator/cooler mounted centrally in the radiator itself, so when you operate the radiator controls you're also operating the oil cooler?
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:36 PM
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Isn't the oil radiator/cooler mounted centrally in the radiator itself, so when you operate the radiator controls you're also operating the oil cooler?
Could be, I really don't know much about this stuff, was just asking while I was here and we were talking about Hurricanes. I guess the separate oil radiator control must be for other planes.
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Old 04-04-2011, 02:21 PM
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I have a confession...I cheated and looked in my Haynes Hawker Hurricane Owners' Workshop Manual. This text is from the Hurricane Mk.II pilot notes (The Hurricane Mk.I pilot notes is very similar in what it says);

Radiator Flap Control – The airflow through the coolant radiator and
oil cooler is controlled by a lever (26) on the left hand side of the
pilot's seat. In order to release the lever for operation the thumbbutton
must be depressed.
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Old 04-04-2011, 02:29 PM
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Thanks for the info.
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Old 04-04-2011, 02:41 PM
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I have a confession...I cheated...
Why am I not surprised? [mumble mumble Brighton mumble mumble Hove Albion mumble mumble Epic Fail mumble mumble].

I must say, some of these posts have me confused (not for the first time). I assumed the Rad thing was an animation bug, since in IL2 opening the rad drops the rear flap more open. In fact, I can't get the Hurri to start unless the rad is (what I think is) open.

The mixture thing is perplexing. Is this really a bug? I know that the mixture lever has to be almost all the way back, which I thought meant "lean" (as in for high altitude). I put this down to a design quirk/bug or something. Eek...

Oh soddit, I'll have to fire her up and do some more messing. Another hour of work avoidance for me...
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Now I remember! Wasn't the throttle quadrant of the Hurri designed so that you couldn't advance the mixture past the throttle's position? I think you can see it graphically in the cockpit, as well as reflected in the "virtual quadrant" and engine settings the game will allow. Well cool.

So, for what it's worth, this is how I get the hurri in the air. Prop fully forward, throttle back to 5-10%, mixture lean, rad open. Then (with keystrokes you can do this pretty quickly), both magnetos on, fuel on main (but Moggs I take your point about the auxilliary tank), and "ignition". (I don't seem to need to prime the engine - perhaps because it's summer?) Seems to work for me. Then you've got to be patient about gradually advancing the throttle and mixture as the engine warms up.

I'm just wondering about the magneto switches. Do we leave them on? Switching them off doesn't seem to affect the engine. I always have to stop the engine by cutting the fuel off.
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Old 04-04-2011, 03:28 PM
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i think the slow cut out is for stopping the engine..
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Old 04-04-2011, 03:37 PM
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I must say, some of these posts have me confused (not for the first time). I assumed the Rad thing was an animation bug, since in IL2 opening the rad drops the rear flap more open. In fact, I can't get the Hurri to start unless the rad is (what I think is) open.

The mixture thing is perplexing. Is this really a bug? I know that the mixture lever has to be almost all the way back, which I thought meant "lean" (as in for high altitude). I put this down to a design quirk/bug or something. Eek...

Oh soddit, I'll have to fire her up and do some more messing. Another hour of work avoidance for me...
I do think the animation is the wrong way round on the Hurri's radiator flap on externals. I'm pretty sure down means open on both the flap itself and the radiator flap indicator in the cockpit itself.
The mixture lever in the Hurricane is if it is pulled back it's rich and pushed forward it's lean. I believe the reason it was like this was if you throttled down to far when the engine was lean it'd cut out, having it rich would keep the engine running.

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i think the slow cut out is for stopping the engine..
That's exactly what it is, it's for cutting the engine out whilst it's in idle.

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anyone has a problem with brakes? I give full power but the plane move only slightly, as if thera are the parking brakes
can anyone help me?
thanks
I get the same thing, try pressing your B key (default) or whatever you've assigned the brakes key to (mine is set to my toe brakes).
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