Inaccurate performance data for BOB fighters in COD comparing to RL data

[Kurfürst]

Great find and good point...

[JG4_Helofly]

So we need a +12 boost spit and hurri. Just one question: For how long could the +12 boost be engaged?

[fruitbat]

5 minutes max i believe.

and i for one, want that reflected in the modelling.

[Moggy]

Originally Posted by JG4_Helofly

So we need a +12 boost spit and hurri. Just one question: For how long could the +12 boost be engaged?

In all the Pilot's Notes I've read, the limit for boost as set by Rolls Royce is 5 minutes.

[TheGrunch]

No problem Kurfürst, just a matter of a few minutes and a good look at the RAF website vs. the combat reports on Mike Williams' site (is there not another source for these RAF combat reports anywhere else on the internet?). I'm not convinced myself that the supply was universal, but my personal impression is that at the very least 11 Group was converted almost universally before the battle "began".

Could I ask whether anyone is aware whether it's true (and I'm not sure where I heard this suggested) that the sector airfields and their satellites were supplied from the same depots? This would clear up a lot of the confusion, since we could then assume that many of the permanent fighter airfields were supplied as well.

Thanks VERY much for that link, fruitbat, I'll go through as many squadron ORBs from there as I can get to examine the 100 octane situation, when the squadron received CSUs, and indeed whether they were De Havilland or Rotol units, because if I remember correctly Kurfürst has posted in the past evidence that the De Havilland units were not as well-regarded by the RAF, and the widespread conversion to Rotol units afterwards seems to support this.

It's a pity the German record situation is not as complete or available.

[Moggy]

You have to remember that the only RAF aircraft (as far as I'm aware) which would be using 100 octane fuel are the Spitfire, Hurricane and Defiant. I'm pretty sure (given stock levels during the battle) that the fuel was used universally amongst the groups. As we all know, squadrons changed groups as and when needed so the need for the fuel would of still been there, although I'd imagine an aircraft using 100 octane fuel would still be able to use 87 octane if needed...without the performance boost of course.

*EDIT*
Apologies if this has already been posted but Swallow has found an interesting piece of information in the Spitfire I pilot notes, Section 2; Handling and flying notes for the pilot, supplied with the Collector's Edition;

Fuel: - Operational units: 100 octane only. Other units: 87 octane

[Kurfürst]

Originally Posted by Moggy

You have to remember that the only RAF aircraft (as far as I'm aware) which would be using 100 octane fuel are the Spitfire, Hurricane and Defiant.

Some (two?) Bristol Blenheim Squadrons also seem to have used it.

[Moggy]

Bloody heck, well that does surprise me! Just checked in the Blenheim IV pilot notes and you're spot on the Blenheim can use 100 octane fuel. Wll they say you do learn something new everyday.

[csThor]

It's most likely II./JG 26 which received the DB 601N-powered aircraft but I am still hesitant to see this type as more than a "candy bar" for the most successful pilots (still too much of a guess rather than knowledge). "White 4" (of Uffz. Perez) was the personal aircraft of Hptm. Karl Ebbinghausen (the commander of II./JG 26, hence the killmarks on said aircraft) before it was passed on to 4./JG 26. Having either the Bf 109 E-4/N or the Bf 109 F-0 tested by Stab/JG 51 in October 1940 would be interesting if the campaign engine allowed for such "rewards for outstanding performance".

[TheGrunch]

Originally Posted by csThor

It's most likely II./JG 26 which received the DB 601N-powered aircraft but I am still hesitant to see this type as more than a "candy bar" for the most successful pilots (still too much of a guess rather than knowledge). "White 4" (of Uffz. Perez) was the personal aircraft of Hptm. Karl Ebbinghausen (the commander of II./JG 26, hence the killmarks on said aircraft) before it was passed on to 4./JG 26. Having either the Bf 109 E-4/N or the Bf 109 F-0 tested by Stab/JG 51 in October 1940 would be interesting if the campaign engine allowed for such "rewards for outstanding performance".

Maybe someone had better get coding one. I wouldn't bet on a Maddox Games campaign engine any time soon.

Originally Posted by Moggy

The Lord giveth, the Lord taketh away. I've just checked the date on the top of Section 2 and it's January 1942.

I thought it might be, I knew there were two variants going about, sorry about that Moggy.