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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-28-2011, 02:29 PM
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These forums are a shame. Could someone please tell me one flight sim that's been released in the last 5 years that worked perfectly on release? Do you negative Nancy's really think that Luthier and team aren't going to be able to optimize the game and make it run well?

I take it everyone forgot about the beta leak footage that didn't stutter around? I take it everyone forgot about the Ignor show footage done with cell phone cameras that looked fairly smooth? That was on an i5 with 2gigs of ram.

If anyone remembers, when IL2 was originally released people were trying to run it with P386/486's. Do you know how ancient those are now? I'm glad that the game will bring a huge system to it's knees (even after optimization) that just shows how complex of a game engine we are dealing with. It also shows just how much potential we have for years to come.

It's as if some of you people think the team worked 6 years to bring you a pile of crap. I imagine Luthier and team are working 24 hours a day to try to get some sort of patch ready to smooth it out. Judging by some of the posts on these forums, you people are some ungrateful bastards.

No wonder the simming business is such a small niche market. Really smooth move treating the ONLY developer to make a quality WWII air combat simulation in the last 10 years like a piece of crap. These people don't do this to get rich. Hell, the pilot bail-out animation in this sim looks better than any first person shooter game I've ever seen. Don't you realize this company could be making stuff for the masses and making some huge money with their talent? Show some respect. Show some support. Show a little praise FFS.

I've been waiting for this forever. I'm very happy it finally got released. I could sit in the cockpit and flip the switches for hours in itself. I will be flying around every single map by myself for hours with a big shit eating grin on my face, just enjoying the fact that I'm actually flying what I've been waiting for all this time. That's what flight simulation is all about and judging by some of the positive postings I've read about CoD, it will probably blow my mind the 1st time I spawn into an aircraft.

Be happy folks. I know I'm smiling just thinking about the chance to finally get this title. I've seen enough videos from the release version to make my jaw drop already. Those of you cancelling your preorder are simply not flight simmers or have no idea what kind of support you will have with 1c. IL2 gave us 10 years. CoD will probably give us that and more! Pretty cheap price IMO. There isn't a flight sim I haven't bought in the last 5 years, regardless of type, and regardless of how much I play it, just to show my support for those people who make my favorite types of games.

Thanks Oleg and team!
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Old 03-28-2011, 02:42 PM
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We don't know yet
- if the filter will stay for the western version (there is a possibility Ubi decides to take it out or make it optional if that is feasible technically)
- what is the real performance loss from this filter. Luthier said 10 fps on low end machines, but given the track record on communications, sorry, I have my doubt. some already report a loss of about 2-4 fps http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=19604 , some say it's more (see mysticpuma thread)


There is obviously some work to be done about something else than the filter.

Oh, and I do not see what gain Ubi would have to trash the game. If it doesn't sell well, it's Ubi loss too.

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Old 03-28-2011, 02:43 PM
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I agree with Bliss in every way!

See you all in the skies,

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Old 03-28-2011, 02:48 PM
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They had two choices, release the game in this state OR not release it at all, EVER! Which one would you rather have?
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Old 03-28-2011, 02:53 PM
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They had two choices, release the game in this state OR not release it at all, EVER! Which one would you rather have?
We dont know that Addman, I've not heard that anywhere else.
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Old 03-28-2011, 03:05 PM
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We dont know that Addman, I've not heard that anywhere else.
That's just it! isn't it? Everybody's keep "hearing things" and the poop fan turns on full speed. Anywho, games get rushed when money is tight, fact! If it wasn't why didn't they release the game like 2 years ago if they just wanted a quick buck?

Question still remains, unfinished game or no game at all, what's your preference?
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Old 03-28-2011, 03:16 PM
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Question still remains, unfinished game or no game at all, what's your preference?
Unfinished but playable game.
And print on the box 'This game is unfinished'


I ask you, when did you realise that this game is 'unfinished' (read unplayable)?
Answer: AFTER it was released.
Maybe they had to rush it, I don't mind. I just can't understand why someone haven't stated clearly before release that the game is unfinished, barely runs, is basically a beta.

If it was clear that you're going to buy a beta, it would be a totally different story.
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Old 03-28-2011, 03:31 PM
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Talk it to death...

No way anyone is going to change a darn thing about BOB COD.

Constructive, sensible explanations will aide developers to get it what you think is right.

Rants, whines and complaints won't even be read.

Pick your poison, you might actually be someone competent enough to share some viable information that might help developers.

Then if you only complain... "who cares what you think" is generally the attitude of persons reading your postings.

Not saying the developers didn't expect this kind of barrage of rants, whines and complaints. Oleg has often expressed his disdain for all the non-constructive junk people say. Recently, there were postings where he expressed such disdain, and mentioned quitting.

I can tell you this much... You don't want Oleg to quit, because your future with competent air combat simulation will be over, over, over. ---

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Old 03-28-2011, 04:08 PM
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Unfinished but playable game.
And print on the box 'This game is unfinished'


I ask you, when did you realise that this game is 'unfinished' (read unplayable)?
Answer: AFTER it was released.
Maybe they had to rush it, I don't mind. I just can't understand why someone haven't stated clearly before release that the game is unfinished, barely runs, is basically a beta.

If it was clear that you're going to buy a beta, it would be a totally different story.
LOL! When you buy eggs, you want them to print on the shell "this chicken is unfinished"? Come on, you can't be serious ...
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Old 03-28-2011, 09:57 PM
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I do think that it is a really bad move from UBI to release this game now and it will cause great damage. I do remember already long time a go reading somewhere that the latest possible release date for the game is 31 of march 2011, so it is probably the last date they could release it without the contract falling through or something..

..but CoD will be butchered in the reviews for sure.

Especially if there is truth to the rumors that the first reviews of multiplayer (on a french forum) have been abysmal..

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