Truth about epilepsy and why the filter is NONSENSE

[wildone_106]

Sounds like we're screwed them. Im not buying it now till this whole epilepsy thing is resolved. Maybe Ubi just wanted people with that condition to play the game? To that I hope the .3% of the people who are actually photosensitive enjoy it now, and give Ubi the $$ return they want.

Congrats!!

[Azimech]

It seems someone already posted something similar on the Ubi forum:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...9/m/8011086719

[ECV56_LeChuck]

None of you remember this???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denn%C5%8D_Senshi_Porygon

[Gamekeeper]

This forum must have set a record for the number of threads started about the same topic.

If anybody is interested in the real facts behind the filter I have published an article about it here

[badfinger]

I read the Q and A link in Gamekeeper's post. I also read the report in the BBC about what was said in Parliament.

What I took away from it was this quote:

"Where it is not reasonably practicable to follow the Ofcom guidance, and where broadcasters can demonstrate that the broadcasting of flashing lights and/or patterns is editorially justified, viewers should be given an adequate verbal and also, if appropriate, text warning at the start of the programme or programme item."

So, Ubisoft seems to have gone admirably overboard in adding this filter to their games, when all that is required is "adequate verbal and also, if appropriate, text warning at the start of the programme ".

At that point, it should be up to the player to make a decision.

binky9

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by binky9

I read the Q and A link in Gamekeeper's post. I also read the report in the BBC about what was said in Parliament.

What I took away from it was this quote:

"Where it is not reasonably practicable to follow the Ofcom guidance, and where broadcasters can demonstrate that the broadcasting of flashing lights and/or patterns is editorially justified, viewers should be given an adequate verbal and also, if appropriate, text warning at the start of the programme or programme item."

So, Ubisoft seems to have gone admirably overboard in adding this filter to their games, when all that is required is "adequate verbal and also, if appropriate, text warning at the start of the programme ".

For many games there shouldn't be a problem with making the game work within the requirements. This would appear to be one of the cases where it is not reasonably practical to follow the guidance though, because this is a simulator. If you are simulating flashing gunfire, it isn't practical to stop the gunfire from flashing.

If the filter is a long term problem, then hopefully someone will find a way around it for those that don't suffer from epilepsy.

[badfinger]

Triggaaar,

My point, exactly.

binky9

Originally Posted by Triggaaar

For many games there shouldn't be a problem with making the game work within the requirements. This would appear to be one of the cases where it is not reasonably practical to follow the guidance though, because this is a simulator. If you are simulating flashing gunfire, it isn't practical to stop the gunfire from flashing.

If the filter is a long term problem, then hopefully someone will find a way around it for those that don't suffer from epilepsy.

[Azimech]

Originally Posted by ECV56_LeChuck

None of you remember this???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denn%C5%8D_Senshi_Porygon

Never heard about this before.

Terrible for all those people, but there are a lot of people here that know for sure they're not sensitive. I've done pretty crazy things in my life so I know I'm not. One of them was being on a festival, some booth had comfortable chairs where we could wear some kind of glasses with LEDs that produced insanely fast flashes, with eyes closed the brain produces "movies" in full colour and detail of nice scenes. Some kind of new tech back then. Never had an aftereffect even while I was drunk the whole time.

So I want the filter to be an option.

[Voyager]

Originally Posted by Azimech

Never heard about this before.

Terrible for all those people, but there are a lot of people here that know for sure they're not sensitive. I've done pretty crazy things in my life so I know I'm not. One of them was being on a festival, some booth had comfortable chairs where we could wear some kind of glasses with LEDs that produced insanely fast flashes, with eyes closed the brain produces "movies" in full colour and detail of nice scenes. Some kind of new tech back then. Never had an aftereffect even while I was drunk the whole time.

So I want the filter to be an option.

If you take a look at the numbers, it was viewed by 4.6 million households, and of those 685 viewers were hospitalized, of which two remained in the hospital for more than two weeks. That is an impact rate of 0.14%, using the assumption that each household represents 1 person.

If Cliffs of Dover was expected to sell 4.6 million copies, then the dev team could afford the time and staffing require to make a flight sim photo-sensitive safe. As it is, we would be lucky to sell even a 10th of that.

[Troll2k]

It seems Sony was sued in 2007 for a ps2 video game.

http://www.qj.net/psp/news/sony-vive...e-in-baby.html

Ubisoft was also sued in 2008 for a video game on the Nintendo DS.

Although these are not PC games I guess the handwriting was on the wall.