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Old 03-24-2011, 10:26 PM
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I want to confirm that everything said here is true, we have implemented some drastic features for anti-epilepsy protection which are affecting FPS and killing SLI support.

We CANNOT make these optional. That will allow an opportunistic or an unfortunate person suffering from epilepsy to sue Ubisoft for damages and literally close down the studio for good.

This was a stop-gap measure to make sure the game gets released. As I explained in the clumsily-translated Russian article, everything in our game causes seizures - gunfire, explosions, fire, sun passing behind canopy framework, etc. Basically flight sims are an epileptic's nightmare.

We'll work to improve the framerate and perhaps address individual issues individually as opposed to applying a single rough post-effect filter, but it is basically a very sad situation. Something completely unrelated and unexpected came to our sim with a giant axe and whacked at it at the last moment. We just didn't have time to properly address it.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:32 PM
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Thanks for the reply Luthier, its a sorry world when people go around pruposefully starting lawsuits and while I am no fan of UBI I am aware that they will be the one that get it in the neck if any misshapes occur.

As someone has suggested, why can a pack of fags be sold with a mere warning and not the game... its a bizarre world we live in.

+ I can blame UBI for not telling you early so I can continue hating UBI anyway
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:51 PM
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Thanks for the reply Luthier, its a sorry world when people go around pruposefully starting lawsuits and while I am no fan of UBI I am aware that they will be the one that get it in the neck if any misshapes occur.

As someone has suggested, why can a pack of fags be sold with a mere warning and not the game... its a bizarre world we live in.

+ I can blame UBI for not telling you early so I can continue hating UBI anyway
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:32 PM
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Thanks for clarifying this Luthier. But does this actually affect how we see things in the game? Does it look worse with this epilepsy filter applied?
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:33 PM
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Crikey, that's some disappointing news my friend.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:38 PM
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First of all, congratulations Ilya, Oleg and team! Thank you for keeping us entertained for the coming 10 years

Concerning the filter: This is very sad news! If I understand correctly, this measure effectively means you cannot modell anything in a sim that could cause an epileptic fit in reality. What a massive limitation for the future!
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:50 PM
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This is such complete bullsh*t. I'm beyond words.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:40 PM
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thanks for the info! Is it possible to deaktivate it "inofficial", maybe in config file? Only for the few non epileptic owners of this game?
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:57 PM
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Maddox Games needs to discuss this with an attorney. Any epileptic can pick up any game and it can induce a seizure. Pretty much all games carry anti-epilepsy warnings and they are sufficient to prevent any litigation. IL-2 COD just needs to have the 'disable epilepsy filter' option buried in an ini file and as such the user has to take precise and deliberate action to change the option. There is not a judge anywhere that would rule against the game designer in such a situation.

At the end of the day they're being bullied by ubisoft to comply with their ridiculous whims and as a software developer myself I really, really feel for them.

Good luck Luthier, Oleg etc. getting this thing taken care of. We all have 100% confidence you will come up with a great solution that will solve this nasty problem.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:16 PM
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Maddox Games needs to discuss this with an attorney. Any epileptic can pick up any game and it can induce a seizure. Pretty much all games carry anti-epilepsy warnings and they are sufficient to prevent any litigation. IL-2 COD just needs to have the 'disable epilepsy filter' option buried in an ini file and as such the user has to take precise and deliberate action to change the option. There is not a judge anywhere that would rule against the game designer in such a situation.

At the end of the day they're being bullied by ubisoft to comply with their ridiculous whims and as a software developer myself I really, really feel for them. Do something but make it and optional feature.

Good luck Luthier, Oleg etc. getting this thing taken care of. We all have 100% confidence you will come up with a great solution that will solve this nasty problem.
I absolutely agree with the above. On what rights can someone sue you on account of human stupidity? Change the interface, redo the cover, put it on on the manual in bold red lettering - heck even replace the title with "EPILEPTIC WARNING".




I wish you best of luck in dealing with this. Even if you sort out FPS & SLI/CF problems, I wonder how will this affect overall graphical representation.

Words can't express the shock I am still feeling after reading about this two hours ago!
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