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Old 03-21-2011, 11:18 PM
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I don't go talk about the Thrustmaster TM16000M anymore, because people don't like to know that a cheap and all plastic joystick is more precise than their expensive "professional" HOTAS stick...

Keep doing mods in this design crap, the X52 series.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:23 PM
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I don't go talk about the Thrustmaster TM16000M anymore, because people don't like to know that a cheap and all plastic joystick is more precise than their expensive "professional" HOTAS stick...

Keep doing mods in this design crap, the X52 series.
hehe exactly....well putted..dont see a point in purchasing sx52 hotas with unprecise and floppy joystick (which can die anytime) just to heavily modify...but of course for current owners mods are welcome...

well....Im keep asking myself for fok sake why nobody manufacture a stick which is not hotas, is precise, with hal sensors and not made out of cheap plastics....and cost less than x52 hotas and a bit more than T16000M......this one paired with used x52 throttle and simped vario pedals would be a best setup ever....ans its really sad that after so many years MS SW FF2 is still the best force feedback stick on the market....how sad is this...I had x52 pro and sold it still fresh...its by far the crappiest piece of gaming equipment I ever owned....now I have used (in fact new as it was never used) Sidewinder precision 2, x52 pro throttle and simped vario usb pro pedals.....

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Old 03-22-2011, 01:14 AM
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I don't go talk about the Thrustmaster TM16000M anymore, because people don't like to know that a cheap and all plastic joystick is more precise than their expensive "professional" HOTAS stick...

Keep doing mods in this design crap, the X52 series.
Lot of people, like me, got their x52 before t16000m was available. Either way, it's a good stick with a flaw that can be easily fixed, much better than TM's cougar debacle.
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Old 03-22-2011, 02:19 AM
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Keep doing mods in this design crap, the X52 series.
I have the X52 Pro and couldn't agree with you more. I did the magnet mod using a paperclip support (great improvement, by the way and highly recommended) and became interested so pulled it apart completely to have a look. Four hours later I had re-soldered all the connections in the stick (many were just barely hanging on) and put it back together.

Deeply unimpressed with the internal build quality and will be flogging it off soon for something else before the rubbish internal plastic components fail completely. Far too sloppy in the centre for my liking, too.
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Old 03-22-2011, 04:49 AM
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I am in the process of modding my X-52 like I modded my X-45.. almost done... I started this about 4 months ago and then got sidetracked.. Finally got back to it this weekend. Her's a pic of my old X-45 mod..


Modded X-45 (R.I.P.)

I'll post pics when I am done...

Sokol you were the inspiration for that X-45 a few years back..

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Old 03-22-2011, 05:55 AM
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I am in the process of modding my X-52 like I modded my X-45.. almost done... I started this almost a year ago and then got sidetracked.. Finally got back to it this weekend. Her's a pic of my old X-45 mod..



I'll post pics when I am done...

Sokol you were the inspiration for that X-45 a few years back..
very nice, and the stick? what you did for the stick?
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Old 03-22-2011, 10:05 AM
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Why do people dislike sloppy center? I find it necessary for accuracy flying. In fact, I have my spring clipped by zip ties to relief the centering tension so there is less detent when reversing the stick from one direction to another. This + shaft extension makes formation flying so much easier.
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Old 03-25-2011, 08:14 AM
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Why do people dislike sloppy center? I find it necessary for accuracy flying. In fact, I have my spring clipped by zip ties to relief the centering tension so there is less detent when reversing the stick from one direction to another. This + shaft extension makes formation flying so much easier.
Thanks for the suggestion - I'll have a go at that. The other X52 mod to increase spring tension is just terrible.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:03 AM
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Why do people dislike sloppy center? I find it necessary for accuracy flying. In fact, I have my spring clipped by zip ties to relief the centering tension so there is less detent when reversing the stick from one direction to another. This + shaft extension makes formation flying so much easier.
My spring is pretty relaxed after the three years I've had the X52 Pro. I do prefer the lighter feel, it was very heavy to start with.

However I have completed stage 1 and done the video'd magnets mod and I realise now that the standard setup has a mechanical deadzone because the Hall sensor doesn't react to the first millimetre or two of stick movement at the centre. If you couldn't see on the video (it was a bit dark in the stick base), the sensor sits between two opposite polarity magnets which swing towards/away from it depending on which way you move the stick' It changes its output as one of the magnets moves closer to it. The initial travel had no effect on the sensor until one of the magnets got a little closer.

I really like the immediate (modded) response to movement at the centre which I hadn't noticed I didn't get before. Makes for more precise flying (as opposed to dead-zone flying) although it needs close attention when you're aiming etc..

I doubt if I'll do the spring tensioning mod though.

Now to order some magnets and sensors for the Throttle pots mods. I think there'll be enough room on top of the rotary spindles for some bluetack and magnets plus the sensor. I think I'll need diametric magnets as they will revolve under the sensor instead of moving across it. Hmmm.... or I could make a little arm for them to swing on if there's room.

Has anyone tried that yet?
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Old 03-28-2011, 11:50 AM
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Well I stripped the Throttle and there is simply not enough room to get magnets and sensor in to replace the Rotary pots. One pot was a faint possibility but the myriad of wires running over the existing pots makes it a very risky business so I will leave it.
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