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View Poll Results: Do you like to see Freetrack interface integrated in IL-2:CoD?
Yes, I like to have Freetrack interface integrated in IL-2:CoD. 133 81.60%
No, I don't like to have Freetrack interface integrated in IL-2:CoD. 30 18.40%
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:29 PM
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you are wrong, i'm not a "fanatic", i'm only answering W_R with his same words, perhaps he is a NP's fanatic, everytime we start to talk about this argument he begins to say "Tir is better","buy TIR","why don't you just get the real thing, instead of a sponge that offers less than optimal performance?" is this a sort of "TIR fanatic"?? or I'm again wrong?
Actually, I say - FT is a hack sooo, it looks like you're wrong.. it does offer less than optimal performance


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And yes - I tested TiR products.
how could you have done that?

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Old 03-18-2011, 01:34 PM
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Just spent an hour or so with my TIR and, compared to FT with a 30fps web cam, TIR has a faster response time. Never thought about it before or the possible impact on game play. I don't know much about the PS3 eyecam other than it is compatible - wether to get one depends on COD's headtracking API support but, from what I understand, they are reasonably priced so worth getting for my second PC set up and have FT on one and TIR on other.
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:41 PM
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For the most part you are right that a higher framerate camera will likely make the most difference and provide an adequate experience, perhaps even on par with one of the older TIR versions (the TIR3 was 120hz) even though it probably cannot match the field of view a TIR5 has.

The software limitation I mention effects everyone on FT or TIR, it doesn't matter. It comes from the amount of time it takes the computer to "guess" the amount of in-between frames (quantizing) from actual samples. You get better accuracy at the expense of lag (the amount of milliseconds it takes to process and return the information) which gets worse, linearly, with the amount of smoothing.

It's important to note that the higher the sampling rate of the camera, the less smoothing you need, much like a mouse.

How much is one of these PS3 eyes you mention? And is there any technical specs on it's field of view?
here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeTrack you can see some comparisons, ps3 eyecam have a max field of view of 75° instead TIR5 is 51.7° if the data there is not wrong. I paid for a new ps3 eyecam about 25 euros, and i can use like a webcam also not only for freetrack

CharveL, what people complain here is that TIR is overpriced, so for who can't or don't want afford it there is freetrack, cheap because today almost everybody have a webcam. I want be clear that i don't say one is better than another, just that one is "cheaper" than another.

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Old 03-18-2011, 01:50 PM
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Actually, I say - FT is a hack sooo, it looks like you're wrong.. it does offer less than optimal performance




how could you have done that?
can you prove FT is an hack? give us the prove.... and a technical explanation why is TIR better than freetrack.
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:50 PM
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here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeTrack you can see some comparisons, ps3 eyecam have a max field of view of 75° instead TIR5 is 51.7° if the data there is not wrong. I paid for a new ps3 eyecam about 25 euros, and i can use like a webcam also not only for freetrack
You must let the guy do a little "adult" research by himself...

For the always stupid W-R: I used a lot of TiR hardware bought by friends, tested since TiR2 to TiR5.

If the "VOTE NO!" crowd don't know a thing about Freetrack work, what's the specs of cameras avaliable for PC use, I don't care. I know how TiR performs. I like TiR performance, but like more "do yourself" Freetrack approach, with equal performance.

Simple as that.
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:54 PM
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can you prove FT is an hack? give us the prove.... and a technical explanation why is TIR better than freetrack.
read back through the threads, and you'll see



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with equal performance? yes, Lobi, that's because FT uses part of NP software

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Old 03-18-2011, 01:54 PM
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LoBiSoMeM, it seems that with CharveL is possible to have a decent conversation, with W_R is impossible... do you see his answers? always the same... hack,hack, performance, hack... it's like he get paid every time he write those words
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:56 PM
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read back through the thread, and you'll see
you again are offending my intelligence and testing my patience... the words that you write about what YOU think are NOTHING, you have to PROVE what you say ok?

you edited after i wrote my answer...

WICH PART OF NP'S SOFTWARE DOES FT USE?
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:57 PM
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@ albx

you've already done that
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Old 03-18-2011, 02:00 PM
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you've already done that
your posts are so clear....
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