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03-14-2011, 05:02 PM
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Far from the only argument we have, but that post wasn't intended to list all my arguments. I'm sure you and the rest of the crack-pirates will send your money straight to 1c maddox office....... riight. Last edited by zauii; 03-14-2011 at 05:05 PM. 
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03-14-2011, 05:10 PM
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Also, I'm pretty sure you won't be doing much online gaming with the cracked version.
Look, steam has many more pro's than con's, it has saved PC gaming. Conservative Grandpa haters have teary eyes for yester year when PC games were stocked on shelves in large numbers. 1C have decided to use Steam to sell more copies of the games, why blame for that. It really isn't that bad, as 56% of people here know. Cry some more.
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03-14-2011, 05:28 PM
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Hello,
apart from the shills/false-flag operators , thanks for the information on steam use.  Quote:
The reason I don't like this news of Steamworks installation is that is by definition a bloated packaged. If I had to sign up somewhere for Anti-Cheat software to be run when I play on certain servers , I would do that. But Steamworks is linked with the Store and all the social/achievement gimmicks I really see as useful for casual gaming , but don't think are at all useful for a sim like ours. Apart from that I don't see why 1C wants to cut out potential customers on the accounts of being lazy. This whole Steamworks thing could be completely optional in my limited view. If you choose to opt out and buy it somewhere else , you just wouldn't have the Steamworks features or couldn't play on some Steam-Enabled servers. Who would be hurt by that? Steam-User and Non-Steam-Users happy. If 1C wants to ship DLC , I think all other Digital Distribution retailers do that too, so I fail again to see the point of only going with Steam. On another note I don't think you can prove Valve to have a monopoly or it's competitor would have already done so. But the fact that they use Steamworks to draw customers to their store is certainly evil and will hurt competition and innovation in the long run. We might end up having Steam as a proprietary industry standard and all your games belong to Valve which nicely grants you a subscription 
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03-14-2011, 05:45 PM
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I just wanted to BUY CoD, I was even ready to have to be connected once and ONLY once, to activate the sim upon install, and then use MY game whenever I want WITHOUT having that Steam thingie somewhere in my PC ...
I did BUY IL2 way back in 2001, and then everything published by Oleg ... but I WON'T BUY Cod with that totally USELESS Steam thingie ...
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03-14-2011, 11:25 PM
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03-14-2011, 11:40 PM
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I buy new games often, and I don't buy them on Steam. Have any other baseless arguments you care to try?
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03-15-2011, 07:02 AM
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As for CoD I would like to simply BUY it, I mean the game not any other piece of software that is TOTALLY USELESS to play the game and has NOTHING TO DO with it in the first place ... If this is possible then I'll BUY it, and it will become MINE, and I'll use it WITHOUT Steam authorization or whatever, otherwise it will remain on the shelves, and I will go on flying FB, I have enough campaigns to play it for years ... I do NOT NEED Steam, it's as simple as that ... and I am ready to PAY a little bit more for a SteamLESS version of the DVD ...
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03-15-2011, 04:22 PM
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I've not really seen any good reason not to have Steam. Those against it will cite problems they had years ago with the service or some mysterious unnamed friend who installed Steam which then took over their PC and turned it into a devil worshipping silicon monster that ate their hamster.
Steam has evolved, its improved as most systems do. As someone who has used it since it first came into being because you had to install it for Half-Life 2 I've seen the many changes. It has been sometimes a little annoying. I recall buying a game a few years ago on CD that required Steam but instead of installing from disc it downloaded the whole game from the Steam server - not much fun waiting. Its improved though, recent games including one I installed today - Total War: Shogun 2 installed from the disc into Steam and it was flawless. PC's are complicated things and you could try to devise the most foolproof system in history but you will never engineer out the rank stupidity of some portions of the human race. People have issues with Windows year on year with each new version and yet here we are still using it. You could argue its forced on us. Some people will have problems just installing IL-2:CoD in the first place but that’s not to say its a bad product. Steam gets some bad press for decisions made by the publishers and developers themselves. I recall someone making a point about ARMA II (may have been another game) having to download huge patches and not incremental ones yet most games on Steam do download small incremental patches, Steam distributes whatever the publishers or developers give to them to distribute so to me that an unfair criticism. From the naysayers I see lots of angry bold type and caps-lock rants about having the right to this, that and the other. Read most EULA's and you'll see you only own the media the software is presented on with a non exclusive license for the software that may be revoked at any time. Steam does not ban or removed access to the system for no good reason. If it did it would not have the support of the biggest publishers in the gaming business and certainly would not have grown into the main digital distribution network it is with millions upon millions of satisfied customers. People assume that the posters here saying they will not buy the game is already money lost to 1C. They will try to demonstrate this with maths based on figures pulled out of thin air. The reality is that Steam will draw new customers in too, perhaps even replacing the naysayers and more. Again some assume that those who say they won't buy will stick to that though even the most ardent boycotts have broken down with groups against Call of Duty and Left 4 Dead 2 saw many of its members playing those games on or after the day of release. The benefit is quite clear. An online community under one roof. A system where you don't need to rely on support and updates to a a number of third party clients like Hyperlobby or XFire for example. Groups are already forming in the Steam community groups section to support this new game and I can see where people are playing if I want to join them. If I want privacy I simply sign out of the friends system or choose not to have it log me in when I start up Steam. There is far too much name calling, people trotting out the tired old fanboy insult or suggesting those who like using Steam and are trying to put forward their happy experience with the system as being 'shills' and somehow being invested in the Steam service. Insults like that and calling Steam a virus really don't help give a balanced view.
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03-14-2011, 08:58 PM
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Ive got no problem paying for it. Hell Id pay more for a non-steamer version happily. Im not even going off on the freedom viewpoint, thats neither here nor there, I simply do not want to run steam after my horribble experiences with it. And I wont. Quote:
21, Seleznevskaya str. Moscow Is this right? I'm serious about sending them a check when I download the non steam version.
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