Central MS FFB2 topic - repair, settings and mods

[jameson]

Sully, I think most of us turn off the return to centre forces and set the sensitivity of the stick to all 100's. It will feel very different to a constant force spring stick but has great advantages for controlling the aircraft, you can fly right up to the point of stall with the wings buffeting and feel that through the stick, useful for 109's and spits. The game already has built in return to centre forces and the M$ one in the original stick software isn't required. When this is switched on you have two return to centre forces applied to the stick and it lessens the feel of control, (felt like mixing cement IIRC!). The first time I turned mine off it was a revelation to me and 'flying' started to match RL accounts and make sense. The controls will go light at certain times, but that's how it is and how you can understand what the plane is doing and hence the advantage of FF. I'd stick with it and relearn to fly with stick forces off. If COD's FM is as hard as Luthier has implied you'll need any edge you can get. Best of luck.

[xnomad]

I'm confused, does this stick work with Windows 7 (64 bit)?
I'm going to upgrade in a week or two for COD and I'm worried I won't have a FFB joystick to use.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by xnomad

I'm confused, does this stick work with Windows 7 (64 bit)?
I'm going to upgrade in a week or two for COD and I'm worried I won't have a FFB joystick to use.

It does, but:

- you cannot use the software - the forces are not adjustable(only with fedit which is a pita)

- If you use Alt+Tab while in cockpit you will lose FFB. If you respawn it will be back

[xnomad]

That's good, I never adjust the forces. I only removed the files from IL2 that stop the shaking when shooting.

I had the same Alt-Tab problem years ago with IL2/FB because of that I never Alt-Tab when flying. I guess they must have fixed it at some point.

[Sully_pa]

Originally Posted by jameson

Sully, I think most of us turn off the return to centre forces and set the sensitivity of the stick to all 100's. It will feel very different to a constant force spring stick but has great advantages for controlling the aircraft, you can fly right up to the point of stall with the wings buffeting and feel that through the stick, useful for 109's and spits. The game already has built in return to centre forces and the M$ one in the original stick software isn't required. When this is switched on you have two return to centre forces applied to the stick and it lessens the feel of control, (felt like mixing cement IIRC!). The first time I turned mine off it was a revelation to me and 'flying' started to match RL accounts and make sense. The controls will go light at certain times, but that's how it is and how you can understand what the plane is doing and hence the advantage of FF. I'd stick with it and relearn to fly with stick forces off. If COD's FM is as hard as Luthier has implied you'll need any edge you can get. Best of luck.

Thanks ..been flying with FFB off as of late because I'm having a hard time getting used to the controls going light...they just seem too light....guess I'll just have to get used to it.

[KG26_Alpha]

What forces are you wanting to edit. spring ?

[jameson]

Sully, you will have to learn to be very gentle with it at first, just push the stick or pull it with two fingers at first, making sure that the IR beam at the front of the handle is broken or interrupted. If you look at the base of the grip at the front there is a little hole and another directly above it just under the trigger that needs to have something blocking the path at all times when flying, come to think of it this could be why your stick forces keep disappearing or going light.
Also the need to trim constantly will be much more apparent as you get used to the stick. Have fun...

[Sully_pa]

@KG26_Alpha - I was trying to get the spring to hold center tension all the time .. to stop it from going light/limp at slow speed 's .

@jameson - The forces only go light at slow speeds, landing,take off,stall as I guess they should ...I wanted to eliminate that and keep the tension like it feels at 300kph all the time while still getting the other FFB responses. My stick has no IR holes anymore as I've modded it to a X52 Pro FFB2 and never lose it .

[KG26_Alpha]

Ahha a XFFB52

As you know with the beam permanently broken the DC servos will be on all the time the sticks powered up.

I'm not sure what you mean by "centre tension all the time" as my MSFFB2 progressively produces resistance as you head to stall point then buffets the stick at stall, the rest is smooth loading of the stick forces as the control surfaces load up when manoeuvring depending on speed and AoA.

Low speed "limpness" is realistic of low resistance as there's less air pressure on the aircraft's control surfaces.

I'll have a look at what you want in FFE, but it seems strange to want high speed at low speed force across the range.

[Sully_pa]

Ahha a XFFB52

LOL Never thought of that .

Low speed "limpness" is realistic of low resistance as there's less air pressure on the aircraft's control surfaces.it seems strange to want high speed at low speed force across the range.

I know ...maybe I'm not looking for high speed but something in the middle ... I was messing with the editor but no matter what I do I can't seem to get it. Just a little more/some stiffness/tension at idol .... Thanks for looking into it .

As you know with the beam permanently broken the DC servos will be on all the time the sticks powered up.

I keep it unplugged unless I'm using it. As I imagine it could wear it out faster.

Thanks again.