Shame on you for using STEAM !

meshuggahs · #1 03-07-2011, 03:46 PM

Gotta love the anti-steam fuss. Let's see if we can match the whine that Civ5 had!
Besides the steam anticheat (VAC?) is more than wellcome.

Dano · #2 03-07-2011, 03:48 PM

Steam does not force you to patch, there is an option on every game to set it to manual not automatic updates.

addman · #3 03-07-2011, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dano

Steam does not force you to patch, there is an option on every game to set it to manual not automatic updates.

True dat!

Vyper · #4 03-07-2011, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dano

Steam does not force you to patch, there is an option on every game to set it to manual not automatic updates.

Which does not work at all with Arma2/Arma2 OA whether you have those options selected or not. It forces you to patch. And you don't get a patch...you get the entire patched game re-downloaded to your HD. Fun for those guys that chose valve instead of hardcopy.

I don't care whether it is offered on steam for those who prefer it that way. I am hugely against FORCING EVERYONE to use steam to play multiplayer. I will not have it back on a system I own.

Revvin · #5 03-07-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vyper

Which does not work at all with Arma2/Arma2 OA whether you have those options selected or not. It forces you to patch. And you don't get a patch...you get the entire patched game re-downloaded to your HD. Fun for those guys that chose valve instead of hardcopy.

I don't care whether it is offered on steam for those who prefer it that way. I am hugely against FORCING EVERYONE to use steam to play multiplayer. I will not have it back on a system I own.

Did it not occur to you that its the developer at fault and not Steam? Other games download small patches and update, Team Fortress 2, Call of Duty games etc.

Revvin · #6 03-07-2011, 05:08 PM

For anyone who is interested there is already a group on Steam for IL-2 CoD here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/IL2COD

mazex · #7 03-07-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vyper

Which does not work at all with Arma2/Arma2 OA whether you have those options selected or not. It forces you to patch. And you don't get a patch...you get the entire patched game re-downloaded to your HD. Fun for those guys that chose valve instead of hardcopy.

I don't care whether it is offered on steam for those who prefer it that way. I am hugely against FORCING EVERYONE to use steam to play multiplayer. I will not have it back on a system I own.

OK - good bye then!

Novotny · #8 03-07-2011, 09:17 PM

Vyper - you are Galen Thurber and I claim my £10!

God, it's been so long since this guy used to stalk Hyperlobby, I'd almost completely forgotten about him.

You must be the same guy, right? Exactly the same arguments and approach.

For those who may not remember him:

http://flightsimhq.org/hyperlobby/index.php

I had no idea you were back in a business. Time to invest in aluminium, those tinfoil rolls are going to start flying off the shelves again!

mazex · #9 03-07-2011, 09:17 PM

I've been using Steam since day one (2003?) and I only had a problem once with some obscure old game that I bought on a sale for a few euros. I emailed support and they fixed it the day after (some issue with too many buying it so the keys ran out

). Other than that I think it works great... A few months ago I got annoyed that I had once chosen the default install dir on C: and wanted to move it to my large D: drive. Moved the whole steam dir and was scanning for which settings to fix to get it running - but I tried starting it before doing anything... And it worked like a charm! All games just worked even though I had moved it to another drive "under the sheet"... Nice!

EDIT: My only issue with Steam is the 1 euro = 1 dollar issue that is really annoying...

Codex · #10 03-07-2011, 09:34 PM

I love reading all the STEAM hysteria, it's hilarious. STEAM is great in what it does and to me the DRM mentioned on that link is pretty reasonable.

Re: The collection of information ... get a grip. Do you have a bank account? ATM/EFTPos Card? Credit Card?. Have you signed up to an ISP? Do you have a mobile phone? Do you use a private or public library card?

Every time you make a purchase using a card or use a service where you were required to set up an account of some sort, you can bet your life that information about your purchase / usage of said product or service is being recorded. It's no different with STEAM. Get over it people, nothing is secret any more.