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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-07-2011, 01:41 PM
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Already got Steam installed so no problem here. Got 11 games so far and none have given me grief, even Empire: Total War. Gotta admit I really love the sales they have on steam, Kane & Lynch 1 and 2 for 8€ last week, yes thank you!
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Old 03-07-2011, 02:11 PM
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I for one am very pleased that its going to be on Steam (even though there's not a single word about CoD on it currently)... the service has been very reliable for some years now.

id say over 50% of the games in my steam library are downloaded straight from Steam.
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Old 03-07-2011, 02:21 PM
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I did have some problems with Steam in its early days. That was a long time ago.

I didn't have any problems with Steam for atleast 6 years now. I usually buy games over Steam, if i can't find them cheaper elsewhere.
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Old 03-07-2011, 02:35 PM
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Another benefit of Steam being integrated into Cliffs of Dover is the fact that you can keep track of those little shits that use Wonder Woman mode, or people you suspect running at really low resolutions for advantages, and just not play with them. Blacklist those s.o.b. in your community groups.

You can also help spread the word about the game by just playing. People you have friended will see you playing it and possibly ask you what it is, and hell before you know it more people are buying it, and then their friends ask them about it so on and so forth. I think any downsides to Steam are really negated by the many many upsides it offers as a platform for gaming. It has in all honesty breathed new life into the PC gaming market, and I for one am glad it exsists. I've discovered new games and new genres through it, and introduced others to games and genres they would never have played.

If you focus on the negative you will never see the positive and I am just trying to add a bit of that light, and yes I am a huge fan of Steam. It resurrected gaming on my favorite platform, the PC.
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Old 03-07-2011, 05:51 PM
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I use my PC for work as well as entertainment. Several UBI games I purchased in years past gave my ability to burn DVDs the fits. I ended up uninstalling the games. Secure ROM on IL2 sometimes gave me burner issues as well. I imagine the security measures employed scanned and found out I can make ISO.files and create discs from them.

I don't have STEAM, and am really not too hyped on 'becoming a member' just so I can play CoD off line. Any of our members have issues with burning DVD discs for video edits and STEAM?
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Old 03-07-2011, 05:57 PM
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@Vyper

It's your responsibility alone to check what you agree upon, doesn't matter if its a wall of text.

With that said, there is no hidden agenda, no conspiracy , no Swat team waiting to storm your house and reveal your very secret identity. Read the terms in-depth and you'll hopefully realize that Steam is completely harmless.

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Old 03-10-2011, 08:00 PM
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I really cant fathom what everyones problem is with Steam?! You can still have dedicated servers etc, run mods, do anything you want! Its only platform to launch the game and help stop piracy (which is only a good thing). I think you all need to really sit back and think how this will affect your game play......it wont!
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:36 PM
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+1 the levelling of moaning here is beyond appailing, how dare ppl complain who else would even bother to make a highly detailed ww2 aircraft simulator when you can spit out games like cod and other fps year after year with no upgrades, minimal work and get paid 1000 times more than 1c will for il2 cod and that's after 6 years of development so everyone moaning here STFU and be glad your even getting a product like this and one that is not watered down for consoles
Since you're getting a tad aggressive here let me remind you that
a) steam brings nothing to the table that CoD won't be able to do on it's own, according to the man himself (mr Maddox), so it's more of an option rather than a necessity and
b) it was a publisher decision forced on them and not something they decided by themselves (again, their words not mine).

So, trying to make it seem as if the people who disagree with the decision to integrate Steam are somehow doing a disservice to team Maddox isn't exactly going to fly.

You guys really want to make me look for the exact quotes if i am to stop having to type the exact same reply every few posts , don't you?


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Not gonna happen and it's the fault of hackers that these drm software are in use, it's the typical case of a few ruining it for everyone else.

I think all you need to do is activate the game once install steam then turn on play offline and you can have your LAN game. Inconvenient yes, a show stopper? not unless you are too stubborn to accept the inevitable.
You apparently missed that one. There is already a different DRM implementation for the game called Solidshield, so Steam is not there for copy protection reasons either. That means that even if you like Steam you too will lack the choice to use only Steam, you'll have to use the Solidshield DRM on top of it.

Apparently Solidshield is supposed to be very effective as well, more so than Steam, for the games of which a quick google search will reveal thousands of illegal torrents with an upload date similar to the game's release date.

It's not exactly the safest protection method and i know this from personal experience dating back to 2004 or so, maybe even earlier, and extending to the present day: while working at a webcafe we had valid licenses for all the games but whenever Steam was behaving strange and customers couldn't play, we changed the shortcut links to versions with "workarounds" that made the game playable until Steam service was restored.

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All Steam games where cracked on day of release. You can get illegal copies of every game that's out there, so the only thing drm successfully supresses is the market for used games.
Actually, if we can disable Steam but the DRM can't be bypassed it will be a win-win situation for everyone: Solidshield DRM is still in place so the pirates can't distribute illegal copies, the people who like Steam can use it and those who don't can disable it.

I wouldn't be surprised if such a stalemate is reached after a few months.


On a more humorous note...

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This whole thread looks like this:



What do you see?
...sorry, but i can't resist answering this one.

It's a glass of water.

It's enough for some people, too much for some and not enough for others.

Maybe it would be a good idea to let them go to the tap and fill it up a little more or allow them to not drink all of it, or even empty some of it into the sink so that, you know, they can actually decide for themselves about the amount of water they want to drink. What do you think about it? Isn't it a neat idea, or should we let half of them parch and waterboard the rest to show them who runs things around here? Yeah, that'll show them progress, i'm going to be the arbiter of their hydration ration for the rest of their lives!
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:50 PM
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Absolutely awesome news.

Steam is full of win.

You have just earned yourself a pre-order from me for utilising steamworks.

Steam is the best thing to happen to pc gaming, ever.

Thank you Ubi.

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Old 03-11-2011, 09:35 AM
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Absolutely awesome news.

Steam is full of win.

You have just earned yourself a pre-order from me for utilising steamworks.

Steam is the best thing to happen to pc gaming, ever.

Thank you Ubi.

LOL...!

Talk about a school-book example of someone getting paid to influence forums.

I'm guessing hired and paid by UBI-soft...
Because no normal gamer would even think of putting the words "Thank you"
and "UBI-soft" in the same room, except during sarcastic hour on Fridays.
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