Friday update and discussions 2011-03-04

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by el0375

need info, immediately before escaping( at 1.06) we see the gunner camera going back, is this like how gunner had to escape from a ju 87 ?

I think it's the canopy sliding backwards to allow him to bail out. Also,

Originally Posted by Baron

Did anyone notice the pilot at the end, freeing him self from the chute before hitting the water.

Nice touch.

Very nice bit of detail.


Overall, it seems just right. The planes bobbing and weaving in formation, the effects, tracers, fire, etc and last but not least, the excellent lighting. I'm not going to be disappointed

P.S. It's too bad that spreadwings.ru is taking ages to load, i wanted to see the other video too but it will probably have to wait until their bandwidth use lightens up (i suppose there's a few hundreds of people hitting refresh just now ).

[TheGrunch]

Blackdog:

Here!

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by TheGrunch

Blackdog:

Thanks mate, i managed to load up the Russian page after all but it's good to have the youtube links too. I'm linking them to some friends of mine who are WWII history buffs but are undecided about learning a flight sim

[Zorin]

Question related to video one. With all the talk about animated crews, why is the Ju87 gunner clutching air and not his gun?

[GnigruH]

Very nice.

A grain of salt:
Like I thought, pilot animations will be the weak spot of this game. I haven't yet seen humans animated convincingly. The guy is falling like a brick, totally artificial feel. The crew sits and moves stiffly, like it was made of wood.

[IbnSolmyr]

Originally Posted by GnigruH

A grain of salt:
Like I thought, pilot animations will be the weak spot of this game. I haven't yet seen humans animated convincingly. The guy is falling like a brick, totally artificial feel.

He's falling totally normally IMHO, with the recommended body position, he waits for the stabilization.

What would you like he does ? Some smileys and thumbs up to the camera ??!

[airmalik]

Originally Posted by IbnSolmyr

He's falling totally normally IMHO, with the recommended body position, he waits for the stabilization.

What would you like he does ? Some smileys and thumbs up to the camera ??!

The problem with having such detailed models of the crew is that you start expecting even more details. In this case, you'd expect small movements of the limbs while in freefall as the pilot ties to stay in the stabilised position and a lot of very fast flapping of clothing. Not saying it should be added just that lack of these details is jarring when you've got otherwise highly detailed models.

Also based on personal experience, I'd say the pilot should be in a stablised belly down position after the first couple of tumbles. In the video he keeps tumbling until pulling the ripcord.

Extremely impressed by both videos and the wallpapers. Can't wait!

[Kye]

Originally Posted by GnigruH

Very nice.

A grain of salt:
Like I thought, pilot animations will be the weak spot of this game. I haven't yet seen humans animated convincingly. The guy is falling like a brick, totally artificial feel. The crew sits and moves stiffly, like it was made of wood.

So have you actually ever fallen out of a plane? He is in the correct body position to fall stable. Granted he tumbles for a little longer than I would expect, but it is miles better than the sequences in IL-2.

I know this, because I am skydiver.


Nice update Oleg and staff.

[Trumper]

Originally Posted by Kye

I know this, because I am skydiver.


Nice update Oleg and staff.

Better at jumping through hedges though LOL
On a more serious note Kye,how would the fall differentiate when it is an emergency bailout from a damaged plane to a more controlled one.
Have you seen this ,any thoughts anyone

[GnigruH]

Originally Posted by Kye

So have you actually ever fallen out of a plane? He is in the correct body position to fall stable. Granted he tumbles for a little longer than I would expect, but it is miles better than the sequences in IL-2.

I know this, because I am skydiver.

I know better cos' I am the pope.

Seriously: I don't mind his tumbling. His legs, arms and head don't move. He's a solid entity. He's a brick.

And I'm not only talking about the bailout situation, but about a convincing human animations in general. I haven't seen any.