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View Poll Results: Do you like to see Freetrack interface integrated in IL-2:CoD?
Yes, I like to have Freetrack interface integrated in IL-2:CoD. 133 81.60%
No, I don't like to have Freetrack interface integrated in IL-2:CoD. 30 18.40%
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Old 02-24-2011, 01:38 PM
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you may have missed the consensus reached early in the piece?
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Old 02-24-2011, 02:05 PM
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This argument is a bit like two pilots in a turning battle and neither can get the angle.......one has to break.

I will post this in both threads as they are essentially the same and, as a user of both systems, have been the 'devils advocate' for too long. So both sets of protagonists read the following! I added the RED text to link the legal position to version.

Text strings bearing explicit notice of "EyeControl Technologies" copyright (former name of NaturalPoint, Inc.) can be found within previous versions of the library in question. However, the strings have been encrypted in recent versions of the library to hide them. The continued presence of the strings can be verified by connecting to the interface and reading them.

The creators of FreeTrack did not deny copyright infringement at this time.

During early releases FreeTrack V1 the source for their TrackIR Enhanced DLL was publicly viewable. The copyrighted strings were clearly visible in the file NPClient_h.pas. Since that time, the developers have removed public access to the TrackIR Enhanced DLL in their source control system , while the rest of their source remains open to the public.

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Old 02-24-2011, 03:05 PM
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see response - other thread
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Old 02-24-2011, 03:10 PM
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NaturalPoint statement from their forum:


We are glad to see FreeTrack recognizing the value of head tracking in games and simulations as pioneered by our TrackIR product. We hope FreeTrack also recognizes the tremendous effort and investment NaturalPoint has and continues to make in getting titles to support head tracking and promoting it within the community. We encourage FreeTrack to undertake their own such efforts instead of relying upon the work of NaturalPoint.
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:33 PM
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As an owner of both systems I am free to use either but consider FT to have many advantages over my TrackIR.

I have full ownership rights over my hardware in tems of repair, upgrade and renewal?

The FT software is better (IMO) with added functionality not available in TrackIR.

The TrackIR clip is poor in terms of durability and construction, restricted to one side. If one LED fails the entire Clip has to be renewed.

There is no advantage in either regards performance with my set up. That may differ for others.

I have no interest in any legal disputes, or the opinions of others, whilst I m legally entitled to use FTv2.2 it will remain my first choice every time.

No support in CoD? I will use TrackIR.

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Old 02-24-2011, 06:28 PM
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This argument is a bit like two pilots in a turning battle and neither can get the angle.......one has to break.

I will post this in both threads as they are essentially the same and, as a user of both systems, have been the 'devils advocate' for too long. So both sets of protagonists read the following! I added the RED text to link the legal position to version.

Text strings bearing explicit notice of "EyeControl Technologies" copyright (former name of NaturalPoint, Inc.) can be found within previous versions of the library in question. However, the strings have been encrypted in recent versions of the library to hide them. The continued presence of the strings can be verified by connecting to the interface and reading them.

The creators of FreeTrack did not deny copyright infringement at this time.

During early releases FreeTrack V1 the source for their TrackIR Enhanced DLL was publicly viewable. The copyrighted strings were clearly visible in the file NPClient_h.pas. Since that time, the developers have removed public access to the TrackIR Enhanced DLL in their source control system , while the rest of their source remains open to the public.
See reponse, other thread. Also, I agree with swiss. One thread only please. This is a poll thread.
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Old 02-24-2011, 07:01 PM
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See reponse, other thread. Also, I agree with swiss. One thread only please. This is a poll thread.

OMG! They finally agree on something!
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:37 AM
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that's frightening :s
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:39 AM
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As an owner of both systems I am free to use either but consider FT to have many advantages over my TrackIR.

I have full ownership rights over my hardware in tems of repair, upgrade and renewal?

I have no interest in any legal disputes, or the opinions of others, whilst I m legally entitled to use FTv2.2 it will remain my first choice every time.

No support in CoD? I will use TrackIR.

and in the same vein of thought... NP has every right to ensure you don't do it through their software.
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Old 02-25-2011, 09:52 AM
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No support in CoD? I will use TrackIR.
I'll use some REAL "hack" way to use Freetrack. But just if 1C and NP wants. If they provide FreeTrackClient.dll route, I'll use it.

Without a trace of "moral" or "legal" concern. W-R can drop dead and talk a lot of crap. I'll use my hardware and my free software to provide me 6DoF TH data, if some crap hardware company and some game company don't want to give suport to my solution own interface, I'll find a way to use some that works.

And just a complete idiot can think it's either "ilegal" or "imoral". NP will never dictate the way I'll generate my 6DoF HT, sorry NP, drop dead!

Bye! Power to the people! LOL!
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