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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-18-2011, 03:32 AM
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It does give the impression that Ubi started the roll-out of this product before they were ready. I'm guessing some bigwig stated the game absolutely must release by March, but neglected to delegate the necessary resources to make it happen. That bigwig has now either completely forgotten about the project, or is blaming all his subordinates for the failure. (Bigwigs everywhere are the same, you understand.)

I actually hope the game is delayed. It would be better to see the release pushed back a few months, and then released this spring or summer with a proper marketing campaign instead of this rushed, half-assed incompetent mess. We've all waited several years for this game; a few more months won't hurt anybody.
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Old 02-18-2011, 04:02 AM
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I am pretty much sure that Ubisoft is not showing much because there is nothing much to show to the general public.

It's obvious that 1C is doing their best assembling and optimizing their code base so it's hard for them to get everything in order to look and play like a finished game.

Plus, I think Ubisoft isn't going to allocate that much marketing resources for a niche game, we are not going to have a final website till probably really close to launch. If they spend all their resources now, they will have much less to work with at the launch of the game.
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:22 PM
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Plus, I think Ubisoft isn't going to allocate that much marketing resources for a niche game, we are not going to have a final website till probably really close to launch. If they spend all their resources now, they will have much less to work with at the launch of the game.
This right here!

Going to the N.American Ubisoft site I'm met with a flash bar with 15 titles. Every single one of them is a Console title. About 1/2 of them are ported to the PC. This should be all the proof you need that COD will be a "redheaded-stepchild that crazy abusive daddy keeps locked in the basement". They, like most publishers now are fixated on consoles and the initial "big bucks sales". They care about titles that ship a few million the first week, not some title that might ship 100,000 over a 10 year period, 90% of those sales at a discounted rate years after initial release.

What might really hurt COD is the way Ubisoft sells it.

If Ubisoft don't make it avaliable to people at the same time, in physical and downloadable formats then there is the chance that people will pirate it in larger numbers. It's that initial week where you make a most of your sales (for most games) and if Europe is playing it for 2 weeks before N. American and Australia, then you're going to see a lot of people who can't wait and say to themselves. . . .

"I want this game so bad, and everyone is playing it, maybe I'll just download it, play it for a week, and then buy it when it's avaliable."

They download, play it, and when it hits stores or their favourite download site they don't bother deleting the pirated version and skip the legit copy.

It's happened before, and could happen again. With a little bit of planning Ubisoft could avoid losing some of those "on the fence" players.

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Old 02-18-2011, 01:04 PM
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We also have to remember that we are a "special" group. We know far more to some extent than do most Gamers about the development of this game than most do about other mainstream titles, usually you read somewhere about a title going gold before you ever hear anything about the game other than a few tidbits of info that has indicated that it's being developed, with the exception of maybe Duke Nukem Forever no other title has had so many champing at the bit for information and that's what is bad about it we have known this was coming for Years and now we're so impatient for info it's driving us all mad. The Webpage will probably be ready when the game is there is nothing to do for it right now, do you know of any other title in development that has a working website up and no indication of release date?
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Old 02-18-2011, 01:19 PM
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If ubisoft could pull off a trailer like the Dead Island one then maybe CoD would get some more attention. Dead Island is a game that's been in development for quite some time but a lot of people -including me- hadn't heard about it until a couple of days ago. It could actually be the best game trailer I've ever seen because most game trailers are to be fair, xxxx. This is 5-star viral marketing, no expensive TV-ads, no posters just a darned good online trailer. Now remember, this game was quite unknown until a few days ago.

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Old 02-18-2011, 01:26 PM
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If ubisoft could pull off a trailer like the Dead Island one then maybe CoD would get some more attention. Dead Island is a game that's been in development for quite some time but a lot of people -including me- hadn't heard about it until a couple of days ago. It could actually be the best game trailer I've ever seen because most game trailers are to be fair, xxxx. This is 5-star viral marketing, no expensive TV-ads, no posters just a darned good online trailer. Now remember, this game was quite unknown until a few days ago.
Problem with this line of reasoning is that the publishers were willing to spend money to make that video to promote dead island. I don't think that UBI is willing to spend money on the bandwidth to even email game sites a press package.

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Who would care about $100k or even $1mio over a 10 year period? That's not even peanuts.
Didn't mean to add that "$" there. Meant 100,000 copies.

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Old 02-18-2011, 01:20 PM
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$100,000 over a 10 year period,
Who would care about $100k or even $1mio over a 10 year period? That's not even peanuts.
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Old 02-18-2011, 04:23 AM
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It does give the impression that Ubi started the roll-out of this product before they were ready. I'm guessing some bigwig stated the game absolutely must release by March, but neglected to delegate the necessary resources to make it happen. That bigwig has now either completely forgotten about the project, or is blaming all his subordinates for the failure. (Bigwigs everywhere are the same, you understand.)

I actually hope the game is delayed. It would be better to see the release pushed back a few months, and then released this spring or summer with a proper marketing campaign instead of this rushed, half-assed incompetent mess. We've all waited several years for this game; a few more months won't hurt anybody.
This is what you must expect when the release date was released by what seams like an accident.

But the good thing is we're all arguing about release dates now and not cloud bottoms and shades of green!

Cheers!
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Old 02-18-2011, 06:00 AM
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