Head Tracking with Cliffs of Dover

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by robtek

I see that there is no way that a free software did use a shortcut by using the software of a regular company!
So it also never happened that the said free software did use their own interface after getting caught.
Of course only regular, money earning companies can be bad.
And the fact, posted on the homepage of said free software, that it still can and will use proprietary software, is a misunderstanding.
Oh, by the way when we are at it, communism WILL rule the world, be shure.

You can read? 16 pages explaining EVERYTHING and this talking about "software"?

No communism, just use your brain a little:

1 - Freetrack actual version didn't use "NP code". Freetrack has your own interface;

2 - Freetrack is GNU, open source, free. It's made to use a lot of hardware options to create a HT solution;

3 - Today a big sim company give Freetrack suport for their MAJOR tiltes, so the "legal" talking is plain stupid.

Amazes me how people sound like a broken record. "proprietary software"... My God!

This kind of discussion is over. If 1C didn't have some "classified" commercial agreement with NP, 1C CAN GIVE FREETRACK SUPORT IN IL-2:COD! Simples as that, Bohemia Interactive did it.

But what makes me really laugh if that people like Robtek jump in defense of NP and CoD devs don't answer the questions, like ED didn't answer questions... Thank's God BIS devs don't hide in shadows and listen to the customers, maybe they don't need so much NP money.

But "capitalist" people believe that is normal... People even know what capitalism is about, I will bottle air and block people to beath normally... It's the same thing.

Tired of that. Please Oleg, if you can't answer or questions and if CoD get out without Freetrack suport, don't cry if people hack your .exe to use Freetrack .dll. Devs complaint a lot of hackers, piracy, but do little to give LEGAL CUSTOMERS suport and options.

As I said: shame. Just that.

[robtek]

As i see that the "same opinion as mine or enemy"-people have also lost the ability to read without prejudice ...
Happy dreams

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by robtek

As i see that the "same opinion as mine or enemy"-people have also lost the ability to read without prejudice ...
Happy dreams

You don't have one "opinion". I'm a Freetrack user, I don't care if you can't underestand how Freetrack works. But when you came to one topic about suport to Freetrack in CoD and start talking nonsense things about "proprietary software", what's your point?

There isn't any "moral" or "legal" subject regards Freetrack. If you can't undestand that, it's sad. But MAYBE exists some agreement between NP and 1C. And if it exists, you can think about why some software companies didn't discuss openly about other HT solutions... Maybe the "ilegal" stuff is somewere else...

But Freetrack is evil...

[MadBlaster]

Good job wingmen!!! Watch for W-R, he'll be on your 6 anytime now.

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

You can read? 16 pages explaining EVERYTHING and this talking about "software"?

No communism,

Amazes me how people sound like a broken record. "proprietary software"... My God!

This kind of discussion is over. If 1C didn't have some "classified" commercial agreement with NP, 1C CAN GIVE FREETRACK SUPORT IN IL-2:COD! Simples as that, Bohemia Interactive did it.

Tired of that. Please Oleg, if you can't answer or questions and if CoD get out without Freetrack suport, don't cry if people hack your .exe to use Freetrack .dll. Devs complaint a lot of hackers, piracy, but do little to give LEGAL CUSTOMERS suport and options.

As I said: shame. Just that.

Freetrack isn't really considered legal while it has reliance on NP software, which you'll find is the whole crux of the matter..

Threats to iC ? this is going to help your cause?

"proprietry software"? what, people should just give you everything you want? you believe you can just take anything you want?[i]? Does the world owe you a living or something?




mate, what you're seeing here isn't communism... what your witnessing, is what got WWII started, complete with the "useful idiots" in tow.

[Stipe]

Why game developers include track ir support and not others? Because of NP aggressive marketing and advertising. NP is like Justin Bieber. You can't take a piss and not hear about them. Who should do the marketing for freetrack or xxxxxtrack and approach the developer if those are free, open community projects? They are not a company nor they need to sell anything.
Developers already know about freetrack and other alternatives and it's up to their good mood to include them if you will.

[Wolf_Rider]

and all that is supposed to mean what exactly, hmmm?

[Wolf_Rider]

I'll answer your (the question asked in plain english) after my already asked questions are answered... are you willing to answer mine?

[MadBlaster]

We can speculate some more. Since they don’t respond, maybe 1C could really care less if the TrackIR interface portion of the game gets “hacked”. It’s probably no skin off their nose. They still sell the game to so called NP “hacker” and get the revenue. Maybe 1C will actually provide, surreptitiously, the “hack” to the NP code in CoD, as they would have the inside track on how it works. Maybe Freetrack was created by 1C to sell more games? Oh my. No, I don’t expect we will get an answer from 1C. But I do know we will get an answer from he who does not exist, whether we like it or not.

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

We can speculate some more. Since they don’t respond, maybe 1C could really care less if the TrackIR interface portion of the game gets “hacked”.It’s probably no skin off their nose. They still sell the game to so called NP “hacker” and get the revenue.

so you admit now that FT is a hack?

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

Maybe 1C will actually provide, surreptitiously, the “hack” to the NP code in CoD, as they would have the inside track on how it works.

so you are asking a developer to ignore an NDA... an NDA in the same vein as the developer asks of it beta testers?

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

Maybe Freetrack was created by 1C to sell more games?

whatever it is you're on, please don't share it... it is doing some serious damage to your head

Originally Posted by julian265

Blackdog's point was that IF a sim only allowed one brand of joystick, it would be bad for consumers. I, and every other person reading this thread will have understood the analogy.

its a moot point and casuist (as soon as his point was countered, he changed it, and no reply about gameport being abandoned... so have, for the most part, floppy drives and AGP)