Hotas setup for the upcoming Cliffs of Dover

[Winger]

Originally Posted by Royraiden

First of all Im new here so If there is a hardware section or similar where this should be posted please let me know.So right now I got a Logitech Force 3dPro which I've used for a whole year,the main problem it got is that the centering is terrible,causing unstable movements even when Im trying to fly straight(just cruising).My other problem is the twist rudder, which almost every time I press the trigger I twist the stick throwing my aim off.So since this game is coming pretty soon I figured out that it would be better for me to get a whole hotas setup instead of just replacing the stick to have a better experience and enjoy the game better.Im almost sure of what to get but would like some feedback.This would be the setup:

-CH Combatstick 568 USB
-Saitek Throttle Quadrant
-Saitek Rudder Pedals

I want to know if having saitek+ch would give me any trouble while mapping controls,also if anyone has any of these items or their counterparts(ch rudder pedals and throttle quadrant)please let me know what you think of it.
My budget is $300 including shipping.There are other setups in this price range as the G940 and the X-52/X65.But out of those three I dont like the looks of the x/52 and the whole idea of the force sensing on the x65 is not of my liking.As for the Logitech, the whole setup seems nice but after my experience with my current joystick and a lot of reviews of people complaining about various issues, I guess I wouldnt buy it either.

The setup you consider will most likely be a big step upwards from what you have. However my opinion is that if youre a real flightsim fan and plan on flying the next years the best equipment is just good enough. So for me i decided to use a thrustmaster Warthog Hotas and some simped brake usb pedals. Currently i am active in Rise of flight and al i can say to this estup is WOW. Absolute precision. Costly but definately worth every cent.

Winger

[Winger]

Originally Posted by ghodan

Simped are not the most awesome.
Because:
1) Price
2) Weight is to light you can kick them away as seen here at 0:20

Saitek combat pedals are BIG (Huge)
149 euro (if you look for them not the official 200 euro price tag)
And a lot of metal parts.
I am not talking about the normal saitek pedals.
I am talking about this beast http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/compedals.html

Sorry but them being light is right but them just being pushed away is big BS since that only happens if you are braindead and DO NOT use the included hook and loop tape to fix them on the ground...

winger

[swiss]

Originally Posted by ghodan

Saitek combat pedals are BIG (Huge)

I found no info on the weight. Did you?

149 euro (if you look for them not the official 200 euro price tag)

Where?
Afaik there are no retailers other the saitek itself.

And a lot of metal parts.
I am not talking about the normal saitek pedals.
I am talking about this beast http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/compedals.html

I like the design too, however I'm everything but confident in quality when it wears a Saitek label.
Sorry.

[ghodan]

Dont know were you are from but here in Holland (netherlands) you can buy Saitek stuff anywhere.
The cheap prices for the combat pedals are:
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/unsor...er-pedals.html (4 stores that have it for 150 to 160 euro. saitek official price is 199 euro)

and my favorite online hw store has them to for under 150
http://www.salland.eu/product/953768...0002-02-1.html

Weight 13.10 lbs

look at the size of it compared to the already big g25 or g27 race wheel pedals
http://img33.imageshack.us/i/full889...110110002.jpg/




who designed those CH pedals?
Epic fail in size (and man parts comfort?)

[swiss]

Originally Posted by ghodan

Dont know were you are from

Take a guess by the user name.

Maybe I should consider getting them from NL, they unavailable here.
(-11% tax plus shipping) - at this price they are pretty interesting.

About the anti slip(they all slip):

Construction appears pretty good, metal pedals with plastic base however the extension that attached to the base where you place your feet has a metal cross base which adds to the weight & helps prevent slippage I guess. I have carpet & they still slip on that however Saitek supply velcro tape to help aleviate that problem. I have mine wedged up against a couple of tiles which in turn are placed against the wall to stop them from going anywhere.

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/326558-...rudder-pedals/

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by ghodan

Dont know were you are from but here in Holland (netherlands) you can buy Saitek stuff anywhere.
The cheap prices for the combat pedals are:
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/unsor...er-pedals.html (4 stores that have it for 150 to 160 euro. saitek official price is 199 euro)

and my favorite online hw store has them to for under 150
http://www.salland.eu/product/953768...0002-02-1.html

Weight 13.10 lbs

look at the size of it compared to the already big g25 or g27 race wheel pedals
http://img33.imageshack.us/i/full889...110110002.jpg/




who designed those CH pedals?
Epic fail in size (and man parts comfort?)

Thanks for that picture with both the CH and Saitek pedals.I guess is a trade off between comfort and reliability,plus im not a big guy so I guess Ill be fine with the CH.

[ghodan]

One more pic before i leave

you can setup the brakes in different angels

[blampars]

Originally Posted by ghodan

With the 20% discount on CH hardware at a shop not so far from my city i will go full CH setup.

Just compared the centre force / returen to centre force / precise aiming between a Saitek X45 and a original core Cougar.
Man i never released that the Cougar is that bad.
The metal feel and sturdiness always mesmerize me never paying attention to what is bad/wrong with the Cougar (only knowing from forums that the pots will spike sooner then later)

I am going for:
CH Fighterstick .More buttons/4way switched to configure then combatstick.
CH pro throttle .Not really my favorite throttle but i will just blindly believe in the precision and build quality.
CH Throttle quad .More axis to config, adds extra 2way buttons to my setup. nice for bombers and advanced engine management stuff.
CH Pedals .... Not my favorite at all, but i somehow like to stick to one brand with gear i use. and its cheap now with discount.

Thinking about buying the CH Eclipse Yoke to for bombers. But maybe my wife will think i am going totally crazy coming home with 5 CH boxes

Update:
Then thinking about it again... CH pedals compared to Saitek combat pedals is only 50 euro difference at this moment.
50 euro difference is not much if we are talking about the most badly sized rudder pedals on the market today and the most awesome rudder pedals (Saitek combat pedals) on the market today.

Just wanted to say I'm absolutely jealous you have a physical shop you can go to, to get cool stuff.. To my knowledge there is nothing of the sort over here, which is a bummer!

[swiss]

Originally Posted by blampars

To my knowledge there is nothing of the sort over here, which is a bummer!

Take a guess why that is so.

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by blampars

Just wanted to say I'm absolutely jealous you have a physical shop you can go to, to get cool stuff.. To my knowledge there is nothing of the sort over here, which is a bummer!

Let me know if you get the Fighterstick shipped.I havent even been charged for my order