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Old 02-11-2011, 09:43 AM
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I installed IL-2 1946 from the disk to a fresh copy of Windows 7 64 bit with no problems other than having to install as the administrator.
same to me!!no problems at all
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Old 02-11-2011, 10:33 AM
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Silent Hunter 5

Ubisoft rushed the Dev team into producing a horribly buggy, unfinished game with a horribly restrictive DRM.
It an attempt to appeal to a console playing audience, they dumbed down the content of the game, giving crew members super abilities like extra explosive torpedoes or the ability to make a soup that causes the sub to dive faster (I kid you not).
In addition, due to fear or licensing issues, no American plans where in the game. They where replaced by strange Franken planes.

This didn't stop them hypeing it up with a website and marketing scheme that was entirely disconnected from the actual game.

The released game was unfinished and covered in some horrid bugs. At first ubisoft told us that there would be addon packs to add the missing content, patches to fix the bugs as well as some basic tools to open the game up to modders. None of these things happened and ubi let the game sink. the only thing they did do is to eventually remove the DRM.

It was an utter disaster and SH3 with mods remains the best Atlantic subsim by a long shot, despite it's age.

It was shameful.
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:00 PM
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Well you have to give them credit for the amazing job they're doing to promote Cliffs of Dover. . . they have a "web site". . . . well, a front page.

Pretty much all the hype built up for the game is due to 1C and Oleg actually releasing content themselves and giving interviews. Ubisoft only cares about A++ titles that they can make for consoles and maybe do a crappy port to the PC.

Plus they like to "buy" a dev team, squeeze out a product as fast as possible, and then lay them all off as soon as the game goes gold. That's one reason why their patches suck, because they don't have anyone from the original team working on them.
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Old 02-11-2011, 02:37 PM
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Well you have to give them credit for the amazing job they're doing to promote Cliffs of Dover. . . they have a "web site". . . . well, a front page.

Pretty much all the hype built up for the game is due to 1C and Oleg actually releasing content themselves and giving interviews. Ubisoft only cares about A++ titles that they can make for consoles and maybe do a crappy port to the PC.

Plus they like to "buy" a dev team, squeeze out a product as fast as possible, and then lay them all off as soon as the game goes gold. That's one reason why their patches suck, because they don't have anyone from the original team working on them.

THis is called capitalism enjoy it. THe rich upper echelons control everything so that it lines there pockets with maximum cash at the expense of the little guys. The larger the corporation the worse it gets. Unless government begins to regulate some of these things it only gets worse.
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:07 PM
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I didn't hate them till I noticed everyone else hating them.
Now I really HATE them.
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:16 PM
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I didn't hate them till I noticed everyone else hating them.
Now I really HATE them.
Well, look at it this way:
Publishers are in purely to make money off of other peoples blood, sweat, and tears, using its printing and distribution skills to make that money.

Good publishers should serve the developer, listen to their desires and needs and offer what help they can (but have some, not much, but some limits).

Bad publishers get a title and do what they want with it, and pressure developers to hurry up, and just right rough shod on the hapless programmers.
UBI created the name for this game (despite years of Storm of War), chose a CoD that sounds like CoD, and used IL-2 despite the fact their is nothing related between the two, AND the IL-2 airplane is not even in CoD!!

At the very start, it is already looking like UBI is messing up the game....


Perfect example:
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:54 PM
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Well you have to give them credit for the amazing job they're doing to promote Cliffs of Dover. . . they have a "web site". . . . well, a front page.
And let's compare that with the marvelous Silverlight Only "front page" for Microsoft Flight?
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Old 02-11-2011, 07:05 PM
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Whether you like the french or not (which, incidently, is exactly that same proposition as 'are you French or not?') you have to admit that they're quite cool. Which is also, incidently, exactly why we in the UK hate them so much.

Except we don't; we're just jealous that they can score so many top beauties whilst stinking of garlic and doing bugger all of an afternoon. It's not fair.

CAUTION: THE VIEWS EXPRESSED ABOVE ARE PROBABLY MEANT TO CONVEY HUMOUR.
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:07 PM
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So it means that a publisher has the final word as how and when a game will be on the market, despite its current state of developpement ?
Would that mean that CoD is pushed out also by Ubi ? Would Oleg have waited another year for release ? It is a very interesting debate....
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:17 PM
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With the IL2 series, Oleg (1C) were under a UBI contract, and there were many unknown squabbles on exactly this.. 'Releasing products before they were ready'.
Luckily for us Oleg stood his ground and the COD development (AFAIK) is completely disconnected from UBI. 1C are using UBI for distribution though, which makes sense as long as UBI have no say in the product activation.

The other sims were in-house to UBI, and thats why they're stuff-ups.
UBI is a distributor, not a developer... period. And as soon as they realise it the better... Maybe with SH5 this message has sunk into those accountants.
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