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Old 02-07-2011, 06:35 AM
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Well, I've asked this before - but if there is a way to add a conf.ini option to disable TrackIR while in external view? It get's really weird controlling the external view with TrackIR for me at least. Most other sims have it this way as default... And yes - a lot of us enjoy to fly with external views enabled.

This should be rather easy I guess?

Edit as martinstripes is correct regarding his comments and my request above may sound more like a demand than a request Thanks for all your hard work! I have said it before and will say it again!

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Old 02-07-2011, 07:56 AM
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When arrives the patch 4.101?
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:46 AM
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Sorry to be a little off topic but...

I am just astounded by how rude and ungrateful some people can be. First of all, this is a game, that you play for 'fun'. And secondly, the amount of time and effort TD have poured into this, I for one am very grateful for every single adjustment they make. You only have to take a look at the Silent Hunter series to see just how 'different' things can be when it comes to patches and support!

For those with the red mist and steam coming out their ears, maybe a few deep breaths and a healthy dose of real life is in order.
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Old 02-07-2011, 08:50 PM
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Well, I've asked this before - but if there is a way to add a conf.ini option to disable TrackIR while in external view? It get's really weird controlling the external view with TrackIR for me at least. Most other sims have it this way as default... And yes - a lot of us enjoy to fly with external views enabled.

This should be rather easy I guess?
You can enable the "Hotkey-Pause" from within TR/IR 5 software when in external view....I guess you have already tried that?

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Old 02-07-2011, 09:56 PM
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It seems the days of the "Luftwhiner" are gone: "RAFwhiner" is here.
Only that the spit has been a very, very stable gun-platform, close to stall,
the last years in this game, doesn't make this "written in stone" correct.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:03 PM
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It seems the days of the "Luftwhiner" are gone: "RAFwhiner" is here.
Only that the spit has been a very, very stable gun-platform, close to stall,
the last years in this game, doesn't make this "written in stone" correct.
Oh, and your Bf is an unstable gun platform? And it behaves badly at near-stall speed?
Now, i fly the Bf's a lot, you know

Do you know a plane in the game being a bad gun platform?

Whiner? Rafwhiner? You know, I have already been called Luftwhiner, too, some years ago; while flying for the reds. Seems these among us who cannot speak very well, like using this dog's language. It s simpler. That could explain why many cannot write a post without saying 'Whine'.

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Old 02-08-2011, 02:34 PM
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Oh, and your Bf is an unstable gun platform? And it behaves badly at near-stall speed?
Now, i fly the Bf's a lot, you know

Do you know a plane in the game being a bad gun platform?

Whiner? Rafwhiner? You know, I have already been called Luftwhiner, too, some years ago; while flying for the reds. Seems these among us who cannot speak very well, like using this dog's language. It s simpler. That could explain why many cannot write a post without saying 'Whine'.
Well, first the way you worded your complaint spelled "whine", not only for me.
Second, thats not "my Bf", i haven't mentioned a BF at all.
Third, my experience what happened often in duels Bf109F4 vs Spit Vb is that, that when the 109 climbs away after a diving attack, the 109 gets snipered by that spit hanging on its prop from 300 to 500 m away; impossible if not a very stable gun-platform.
Forth, i point to the post of Blackdog_kt
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Old 02-08-2011, 06:40 PM
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Well, first the way you worded your complaint spelled "whine", not only for me.
Second, thats not "my Bf", i haven't mentioned a BF at all.
Third, my experience what happened often in duels Bf109F4 vs Spit Vb is that, that when the 109 climbs away after a diving attack, the 109 gets snipered by that spit hanging on its prop from 300 to 500 m away; impossible if not a very stable gun-platform.
Forth, i point to the post of Blackdog_kt
Calling someone names is much easier than answering what he said with arguments. Your such 'arguments', against a person - never prove a thing about the subject being talked about, and make my answering you actually quite unnecessary. So keep using the dog's language with the guys you mention as sharing your aptitudes; what people say often tells more about them than about their subject.

You got a picture of a Bf, some 500 pixels long in your forum logo, together with a Luftie unit badge- and you say you didn't even mention a Bf

The Bf is capable of hanging on its prop at even lower speeds that the Spit, or almost any other plane in the game. Its excellent stall qualities are due to the automatic slats on it's wings. You have been using them in the situation you describe, too - climbing steeply and at a low speed from the Spit.
Slow climb is an extremely risky thing - most kills in the game are on the planes climbing steeply, because they are such an easy a target. So be sure the opponent hasn't got enough energy to point the nose at you. If he can, with the speed sitill a bit above its stall, flaps down, and if you being closer than 500 m - any cannon armed plane ll cook you, and the MG-armed ones have a good chance of smoking your engine. I shot heaps of F4 's down in exactly the situation you describe, at ranges up to and sometimes over 500m... in an I16.

Even if you cannot hit anything at 500 m yourself, don't make a very common mistake thinking nobody can. A friend could hit me persistently at 700 m at almost any angle.

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Oh, and your Bf is an unstable gun platform? And it behaves badly at near-stall speed?
Now, i fly the Bf's a lot, you know

Do you know a plane in the game being a bad gun platform?

Whiner? Rafwhiner? You know, I have already been called Luftwhiner, too, some years ago; while flying for the reds. Seems these among us who cannot speak very well, like using this dog's language. It s simpler. That could explain why many cannot write a post without saying 'Whine'.
The 4.10 spitfire behaves badly at near stall speed?
All Il2 aircraft without wing slats do, so why would you want the spitfire to be an exception?

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You can enable the "Hotkey-Pause" from within TR/IR 5 software when in external view....I guess you have already tried that?

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Mmm - but as I understand that I have to press it every time I swap to external view? Or is there a way to automate it? Otherwise it will of course work but as I swap rather a lot being one of those that thinks that Full Switch = all options disabled is not correct as the human eye has about 180 degree peripheral vision etc so forcing a 70 degree "cone" on your head does not become full switch for me

Anyway I play IL2 online for some fast dogfights/bombing runs with good and realistic plane sets and missions (like UK Dedicated 1 for example has to offer) - so swapping between internal and external views happens a lot... As it is now I even fly IL2 without trackIR as it gets so annoying with the TrackIR on in external... The servers I really like are the ones with forced cockpit on but with allowed external views to negate some of the lack of peripheral vision in a game. Sure, it get's "too good" with external padlock when the target is really obscured - but it's rather fun to me at least not spending a lot of time trying to find a bunch of pixels against the pixel ground that would have been spotted and tracked a lot easier IRL... Just my opinion and I understand that many like it as hard as it can get! I also enjoy the full switch servers that adds another dimension but somehow I often end up in more relaxed servers. Getting old?

Just adding an option to disable TrackIR externally would be a really appreciated feature for me at least! Games like RoF, the DCS series etc have it that way as the default option... I guess it would also take about the same time to do it as doing the texture for the knob of the joystick in one of the beautiful cockpits these talented fellows do!
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