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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-24-2011, 06:33 PM
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each one has it's own taste, let it be an option and I have no trouble with it.
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Old 01-24-2011, 06:58 PM
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Same here really. I just hope I get as much enjoyment out of the new sim as I have Il2.
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Old 01-25-2011, 05:37 PM
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It does quite explicitly say this in the single-player section. I would actually like an answer to this question, as a scripted campaign with a bollocks story would prevent me from buying this game.
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Old 01-25-2011, 05:41 PM
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renegade=defeated polish,french,czechs still fighting alongside the british. They were considered as renegades in their own army and condemned to death (at least the former french air force pilots).
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Old 01-25-2011, 06:27 PM
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renegade=defeated polish,french,czechs still fighting alongside the british. They were considered as renegades in their own army and condemned to death (at least the former french air force pilots).
Rollnloop has it right. Servicemen who fought on after their country had surrendered were classified as renegades by the new government of the country concerned. It's an unfortunate translation that has probably been seized upon by some advertising oik and used because it seems to add some spice, that's all.
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:32 PM
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"he will join the Royal Air Force to fight the ..... renegade pilots on his own side."

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Rollnloop has it right. Servicemen who fought on after their country had surrendered were classified as renegades by the new government of the country concerned. It's an unfortunate translation that has probably been seized upon by some advertising oik and used because it seems to add some spice, that's all.
It's not so much a question of who the renegades were, it's the fact that you are to fight against them. I've seen so many so called explanations of this nonsense. There are only two possible explanations:
1) They've typed it incorrectly - without doubt the most likely explanation
2) The development team have taken leave of their senses and turned the game into a farse - I doubt it.
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Old 01-26-2011, 12:59 AM
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"he will join the Royal Air Force to fight the ..... renegade pilots on his own side."



It's not so much a question of who the renegades were, it's the fact that you are to fight against them. I've seen so many so called explanations of this nonsense. There are only two possible explanations:
1) They've typed it incorrectly - without doubt the most likely explanation
2) The development team have taken leave of their senses and turned the game into a farse - I doubt it.
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:01 AM
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I wouldn't consider the Polish and french pilots based in the UK as renagades as they were still fighting to protect their people from the last freely elected governments of their respective countries.

You need to remember that the govenments elected during the time of occupations didn't represent the wishes of peoples of those countries. They were infact puppet goverments intended to legitimise the occupation of the Nazi forces, and in most cases recieved their just deserts after the war.

I think the term renagade was put in there to represent the LW pilots who think they know beeter than their own high command and will disregard orders about sticking with the bombers and run off to the closest furball.

This will make the RAF Job easier as stopping the bombers are the main objective of the RAF.

How many RAF pilots are going to become renagades by finishing a mission with a quick flyby to see the 109's with empty fuel tanks floating in the Channel!

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Old 01-25-2011, 08:46 PM
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renegade=defeated polish,french,czechs still fighting alongside the british. They were considered as renegades in their own army and condemned to death (at least the former french air force pilots).
I don't think they would've been called that from over here in the UK.Maybe free as in Free French.Technically it's not wrong in meaning but in the use of the term possibly not right.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/renegade
"renegade [ˈrɛnɪˌgeɪd]
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a. a person who deserts his cause or faith for another; apostate; traitor
b. (as modifier) a renegade priest
2. any outlaw or rebel
If the countries i e Poland etc were invaded and forced to side with the Axis then i don't think they were renegades as they were still fighting for their home country against the invaders.
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Old 01-25-2011, 05:42 PM
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perhas there are some 'special' missions........................ who knows.
just remember the woman in the Spitfire cockpit screenshots, most propably also a special singleplayermission.


form a historical viewpoint its nonsense IMHO !
but its still a game
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