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[T}{OR]

My 2 cents: FAKE.

Originally Posted by mazex

Ask whiners about publisher <insert name> to say which publisher they like instead... Then wait...

I have no problem with how Ubisoft has handled the IL2 franchise so far (accept maybe the Boonty fiasco ). We got a game with support for years with zillions of free patches / addons / extra everything... Sure, it was MG that did the work but Ubisoft must have paid some way for a lot of the time spent on free patches (or Oleg is Santa Claus). People whine about the copy protection on Silent Hunter V and that the game has been "dumbed" down compared to version III/IV, but how many serious sub sims did the other large publishers release the last decade - or simulators at all?

...any other than Ubisoft. No need for clarifying things more than that.

If you're too blind to see the damage they did with the NG fiasco and SHV (among many) then I feel sorry for you. Let me put it the other way around - you seriously think anyone would want to do a sub sim after how SHV was accepted?

[Abbeville-Boy]

great news
after a long long wait
i feel like my parole has been granted

[F19_Klunk]

ali thor moj prijatelj.... UBI did not develop SoW (or CoD if this is the new name)..." Maddox games did/does
I really couldn't care less who's the publisher really...
...

laku noć...

[McDaniel]

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[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by F19_Klunk

ali thor moj prijatelj.... UBI did not develop SoW (or CoD if this is the new name)..." Maddox games did/does
I really couldn't care less who's the publisher really...
...

laku noć...

Did you use google translate for this? I am fully aware that UBI did not develop this, however they have already crippled IL2 with their NG agreement (which I presume still stands, especially if they hold on to the IL2 name).

Which leads me to another question - why isn't there a 1C logo on the box?

[F19_Klunk]

Originally Posted by T}{OR

Did you use google translate for this?

Lol no.. moja žena je 50% hrvatica i 50% njemačka... and I have spent at least 3 weeks every year(summer) in Dalmatia for the past 16 years... even though I speak croatian as a 2 year old, I still understand quite a bit

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by F19_Klunk

Lol no.. moja žena je 50% hrvatica i 50% njemačka... and I have spent at least 3 weeks every year(summer) in Dalmatia for the past 16 years... even though I speak croatian as a 2 year old, I still understand quite a bit

Sjajno. Ovo će vjerojatno završit na PM ali svejedno - kad si sl. put u HR bumo na neku pivu otišli.

Originally Posted by The Kraken

I'll try to keep it short

• messing up previous sim releases (e.g. Lock On)

• failing to provide substantial marketing for lower profile games

• restrictive always-online DRM

• poor support ("please file a ticket")

• the NG fiasco with Pacific Fighters

• staggered releases over several weeks

• generally treating their customers like idiots

Now to be fair they aren't the only big publisher with such issues, but as long as they include their current DRM it's a no-go for me (in case of SoW - or CoD or whatever we'll end up calling it - I'm actually quite confident it won't be included; at any rate there should be a 1C version available). And if people call me a "whiner" for that, then so be it; I won't turn this into a DRM thread (we all know how that usually ends).

+1

[mazex]

Originally Posted by T}{OR

My 2 cents: FAKE.



...any other than Ubisoft. No need for clarifying things more than that.

If you're too blind to see the damage they did with the NG fiasco and SHV (among many) then I feel sorry for you. Let me put it the other way around - you seriously think anyone would want to do a sub sim after how SHV was accepted?

Well, I'm not saying Ubisoft are "good" in any way - but compared to the others they are not worse when it comes to support for sim titles... Or give me an alternative? Here is the current top ten list (from Wikipedia):

1 Nintendo
2 Electronic Arts
3 Activision Blizzard
4 Ubisoft
5 Take-Two Interactive
6 Sony Computer Entertainment
7 Bethesda Softworks
8 THQ
9 Square Enix
10 Microsoft

Select one that would be better as a publisher for SoW?

Regarding the SHV failure I am also disappointed as hell and have played it for some hours only before uninstalling it - but they at least tried doing a sub sim that would please us nerds out there. Did any of the other 10 in the list above try? And what did the "community" do? They whined themselves to death and threatened Ubisoft etc so will they try again?

My own opinion regarding the DRM issue is that I really don't care that much myself if it is a bit intrusive... Like the rest of the industrialized world I have constant Internet connection (like the rest of you) so what is the real problem with an online check accept when running the game on a laptop in a boat? If they remove it before shutting down the validation servers and they work it's fine with me, even though it naturally would be better without it! Making a DRM that really works WILL involve some kind of Internet based validation in some form - sooner or later all publishers will hopefully use some solution that works and the profits will get back to the PC gaming industry so that we will get niche games like this.

/Mazex

[Feathered_IV]

The box art styling and Il-2 Sturmovik tag make it look like an add-on for the Wings of Prey series. Something the developers may regret later on.