4.10 Official Release

[Aviar]

From the 4.10 readme:
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Weapon related changes:

Fuse arming for bombs.


Where is this located? How do we use it? I know it's not 'Bomb Delay', since we've had that for years. Anybody know??

Aviar

[wedgies]

Thanks for all of your hard work and dedication to making one of the greatest games even better. May everyone of you have a blessed and Merry Christmas as well as a well deserved break! Now when is 4.11 coming out

[Avimimus]

Originally Posted by Aviar

From the 4.10 readme:
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Weapon related changes:

Fuse arming for bombs.


Where is this located? How do we use it? I know it's not 'Bomb Delay', since we've had that for years. Anybody know??

Aviar

Check the new English readme! Basically, try dropping a bomb from under 25 metres (or higher if you are in a dive).

Now bombs have a safety feature, in case they should fall when being loaded.

[Aviar]

Originally Posted by Avimimus

Check the new English readme! Basically, try dropping a bomb from under 25 metres (or higher if you are in a dive).

Now bombs have a safety feature, in case they should fall when being loaded.

I did check the English readme. Can you paste the part of the readme that you are referring to?

Aviar

[Chromius]

Thank you very much for all the time and effort on this patch!

May you all have a wonderful holiday.

Cheers

[Sven]

Originally Posted by Aviar

I did check the English readme. Can you paste the part of the readme that you are referring to?

Aviar

Or just fire up IL2 and see the effects for yourself No more retards dropping bombs when taxiing and blowing you up.

[robtek]

The arming time is not adjustable!
If a bomb falls less then 2 sec. before impact it doesn't explode.

[JHartikka]

Originally Posted by Avimimus

Check the new English readme! Basically, try dropping a bomb from under 25 metres (or higher if you are in a dive).

Now bombs have a safety feature, in case they should fall when being loaded.

Yes, it is a safety delay that prevents bombs from exploding when bombing low. Alas, it also prevents low bombing, too! In recent 4.10m mission I was advised to drop from minimum alt of 500 meters..! For precision bomber, denying 'jabo' bombing this is like denying fighter pilot from shooting closer than 500 meters to target..!

In reality, bombs were fused for each mission bombing style. Original makers of IL-2 flight sim have made very fine bomb bounce modeling to enable low accuracy bombing styles like ground 'slide bombing' and ship 'bounce bombing' or 'skip bombing'. Now all these low bombing styles are denied from us with the 4.10m safety fuse!

If there are bomb salvo settings, please let pilots set them! Safety fuse style forced 'idiot bombing' modes are good for AI pilots, but many human pilots like to learn precision bombing the real way - low! So please either remove that safety fuse from the next patch or let people set it with other bombing salvo settings -quite like in reality..!


All the Best,

- J. Hartikka -

IL-2 Virtual Bomber Pilot

Finland

Links: Weapon control mode to set SALVO to drop any number of bombs individually or at desired intervals - http://ultrapack.il2war.com/index.ph....html#msg33351

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by JHartikka

Original makers of IL-2 flight sim have made very fine bomb bounce modeling to enable low accuracy bombing styles like ground 'slide bombing' and ship 'bounce bombing'. Now all these low bombing styles are denied from us with the 410m safety fuse!

no they didn't.

because in reality this type of bombing never happened.

[JHartikka]

Originally Posted by fruitbat

no they didn't.

because in reality this type of bombing never happened.

U trying to rewrite history I guess..?

In reality, bombs were fused with suitable fuse delays for each mission. 4.10m style safety delay fuses were used for high level bombing. Precision low bombing fuses were different to level bombing fuses. For example, Finns sometimes precision bombed bridges low with a group of Blenheims carrying bombs delayed for 30 secs with no initial safety delay. This allowed the bomber group to drop bombs quickly and accurately low and the whole group would we away before the bombs exploded 30 secs later. A 4.10m style forced safety fuse would have prevented bombs from exploding.

U.S. bomber pilots were notorious for their 'skip bombing' tactics - flying fast very low over sea to bounce bombs from water to the side of a ship - which are said to have made Japanese ship crews very scary for American bombers during latter part of war. Bombs would not have worked with a 4.10m safety fuse.

'Slide bombing' was used at least by German 'Jabo' pilots with ground battle versions of FW's, for example. They would approach the target very low almost parallel to ground and drop bomb so it would slide on ground to hit the target. Bombs were furnished with delay fuses for these low bombing styles of course. No 4.10m safety delay was set to these fuses, either!

I bet some readers of this thread know more examples of low bombing practises. 4.10m style safety fuse could of course not be used for these bombing styles because it would have prevented the bomb from exploding in target. That is why I would like to ask to please remove the safety fuse from 4.10 patch...


Regards,

- J. Hartikka -

IL-2 Virtual Bomber Pilot