TD - Please add mid-air structural repairs

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Novotny

I understand that Letum has put forward a strong case for his water fountains however I shall be outraged if TD commence work on this admittedly important feature prior to implementing bacon & eggs.

Currently, we can set fuel, ammunition and pilot skill but no-where can we specify whether or not the pilot has had a good breakfast or not. This is an oversight of flabbergasting proportion.

Breakfasting to the utmost was the greatest secret of the RAF during the Battle of Britain. Though the modeling of this most important meal of the day has admittedly set back the release of BoB by some three years, Oleg recently confirmed that eggy tesselation, though not seen in the recent alpha, has been perfected - there are even wild rumours of black pudding.

That red light in the 109's cockpit did not indicate low air fuel as most have thought up until now: it came on when the staffel's cooks had finally knocked up breakfast and the errant nazi's were recalled for their piddly continental - a poor shadow of the full English, with its insipid orange juice and croissanty nonsense (we have much to thank the French resistance for).

It has long been acknowleged that the Nazi war machine, for all it's tactical nous and tremendous engineering capacity, neglected to fry animal products in a manner befitting its warriors of the air. They'd never even researched brown sauce.

I hope this appalling inaccuracy is finally corrected.

Don't try this, just give space and act as support to the creator of the most fun topic ever.

It's priceless! Need to be sticky! And THIS topic need severe moderation! My post and any other without "serious" feedback about what must or not be included in IL-2 need to be deleted ASAP!

Let's keep this topic pure!

[IceFire]

Comedy gold folks! Keep it up! Need some lightheartedness right now... tis the season!

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Can you deliver any trustable sources for.... fountains?

I mean, not those post war reports. Even still existing fountains are mostly made by new spare parts. Is there any original left? We need such sources to do it correctly or none at all. You know...

[Letum]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Can you deliver any trustable sources for.... fountains?

I mean, not those post war reports. Even still existing fountains are mostly made by new spare parts. Is there any original left? We need such sources to do it correctly or none at all. You know...

Hello Casper and thank you for your interest.

First I must make clear that water fountains are a secondary idea of mine.
You should not tackle them until you have the mid-air repairs finished.
That said....


Water fountains where undoubtedly a feature of the Second War. There are
three reasons I can say this so assuredly:

1) The invention of water fountains predates the Second War by over 1000
years and the erection of fountains was wide spread across Europe for a
period of several hundred years leading up to the Second War.

2) At archeological dig sites, fountains have been buried next to confirmed
war items such as war guns, war planes, war documents and war veterans.

3) "The Chronicle of the 20th CenturyKey Events in Nuneaton and district
in the last one hundred years compiled by Peter Lee 1940-49"

Chronicle Four (LINK) of this historical document contains a rare, first hand
account of the role fountains played in the Second War. The Entry for 1940
reads thus:

1940

The water fountain in the Market Place was taken down and the water supply used for a static water tank in connection with air raid precautions. The old stone water fountain was stored for many years in the council yard in Queens Road at the back of the library.

10th January - Nuneaton Citizens Advice Bureau opened.

4th June - RAF Bramcote commissioned.

July - The 1st Polish Squadron came to be stationed at RAF Bramcote. No.300 Masovian, followed by Nos. 301, 304, 305.

20th August - King George VI and Queen Elizabeth paid a secret visit to RAF Bramcote to inspect a squadron of Polish aviators.

28th August - First air raid on Nuneaton. The Luftwaffe bombed Weddington - 1 dead.

14th November - The great blitz on Coventry, a few bombs were dropped around the Nuneaton area.

This not only shows that fountains existed in the war, but it also shows
that they where "in connection with air raid precautions". No doubt, there
would have been many more deaths on the 28th August, had it not been
for the fountain. However, I don't think that should be modeled in IL2 for
reasons of balance.

I have made a 3d model of what I think the fountain should look like in IL2.

edit: but not white.

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by Letum

I have made a 3d model of what I think the fountain should look like in IL2.

edit: but not white.

So fountains should be camouflaged ?

[Letum]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

So fountains should be camouflaged ?

No....just normal fountain colour.

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Letum... while I think, mid-air-repair would be a nice feature, I see fountains beeing more easily to implement, so due to our low timeframe, it would be first choise.

With 'easily to implement' I don't mean, that we consider to do a simplified model/function or such - no, we should make it work 100% historical and technical correct. I just want to assure you this.

However, your model already seems nice, I suppose, it doesn't contain any LoD or Damage models yet? Please feel free to continue it. We'll think about calculation about the water flow velocity (LPM - liter per minute) for varoius types.

Feel free to send us your datas at: daidalos.team@gmail.com

We there also can discuss a 'maybe'-way for mid-air repairs.

[FG28_Kodiak]

I think we need 6DOF before Fountains, seems there is a little Problem: