second sino-japanese war 1937-1940

[JG53Frankyboy]

but, we must be honest to ourself i think - those early theaters , even if we here like them a lot, they will not sell very good to the masses !!
I doubt a main developer ,that have to earn money ,will put his efforts in these scenarios IMHO

perhaps later, i am speaking here of years , some 3.party will make that possible.

[bf-110]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

but, we must be honest to ourself i think - those early theaters , even if we here like them a lot, they will not sell very good to the masses !!
I doubt a main developer ,that have to earn money ,will put his efforts in these scenarios IMHO

perhaps later, i am speaking here of years , some 3.party will make that possible.

Yes,but,and if you could choose between a sim that haves only superstars like P-51,FW-190,B-17,Yak-9,Zero and Spifire and one that have those and plus less common and even "exotic" or secret planes...?
IL2 is different than any other of its genre.

[Wutz]

Originally Posted by bf-110

Yes,but,and if you could choose between a sim that haves only superstars like P-51,FW-190,B-17,Yak-9,Zero and Spifire and one that have those and plus less common and even "exotic" or secret planes...?
IL2 is different than any other of its genre.

Absolutely true! When IL2 came out it was the first time that Russian planes where flyable. All other sims of the time had your standard set up of 109s 190s, Spits, Hurries and that was pretty much it just need to think of EAW which I flew a lot before IL2.
Sometimes the exotic or should we say less known in the western world can be real ah ha´s So I would not write off the Chinese-Japanese theatre as too exotic to never expect anything to come up.
Who would of thought of ever flying a IL2 before IL2 came out? Most would have asked what is a IL2?

[zakkandrachoff]

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[proton45]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

but, we must be honest to ourself i think - those early theaters , even if we here like them a lot, they will not sell very good to the masses !!
I doubt a main developer ,that have to earn money ,will put his efforts in these scenarios IMHO

perhaps later, i am speaking here of years , some 3.party will make that possible.

I understand what your saying...but if they did the Pacific theater "the right way", they should start with 1937 & China. I actually see Khalkhin Gol as a separate "add-on".

Originally Posted by Wutz

Oh there is a lot more than dogfighting in this theatre, I just need to think of various interesting bombing missions, like the attack on the USS Panay in 1937 just of Nanking, the bombing of Shanghai, or the early WWII missions like the sinking of the Z-Fleet (HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repuls) This was mainly done by G3M1 Nells, or for those into something really exotic how about the aerial battles between the Chines nationalists and the comunists, as that was the prime objective of the Chinese nationalist army, Japan first came in second. As to maps, yes those rice paddies are unique or even uniquer would be the Halong Bay.

Something like that would be a real treat to fly over!

Yea...I'm aware of the role that bombers played in the campaign. Some truly amazing long distance sorties...the Japanese where one of the first to realize the importance of escort fighters in bombing raids. Another reason for the A6m's development...

[sayaret]

What is the title of movie from the first post?

[TedStryker]

Great to see such interest in the S-JW, as I'm nearing completion of Part One of an epic three part campaign covering the years 1937-41, called China:Incident of War.

Check out this thread at http://www.mission4today.com/index.p...wtopic&t=10423

I'd wanted to play such a campaign for years myself, and am interested in possibly doing something third party for the SOW series in the future (with a team of like minded modellers), so this is an intruiging thread, as i've wondered what kind of response there would be from the community....and the Chinese authorities!

[Feathered_IV]

Another true Forgotten Battle. Wouldn't be complete without one of my favourites. Dewoitine D500... so pretty!

[TedStryker]

Cannon armed, too.
Yeah, a D500, G3M and a Hawk III would really beef up the existing planeset. If I could spare the cash i'd stump up for a flyable Hawk III right now...

[baronWastelan]

Thus it’s currently a big deal in China anytime Chinese technology, or diplomats, beats the Westerners. In the Chinese universe, it's the supreme insult for foreigners to best the Chinese, militarily or otherwise. But for the last few centuries, that is what happened. China isn't really looking for a war with the West, but politicians find it easy to win approval by playing up the might of the motherland, and what China can do (in theory) if anyone messes with us. That process induces some amnesia about what has really happened in the past, but that's what nationalism and demagoguery are all about.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htm.../20101217.aspx