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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 11-15-2010, 04:27 PM
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ll. Nvidia want gamers to hold on to old CPUs and buy new GPUs
Hold on to old cpus?

Pls explain.
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:58 PM
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PhysX and CUDA are examples of anti-competitive practices as well. Nvidia want gamers to hold on to old CPUs and buy new GPUs to cement their control of the market. CPU power is very cheap compared with GPU power, and physics belongs on the CPU.

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Hold on to old cpus?

Pls explain.
I believe duff's point is that nvidea want you to become dependant on the GPU for the PhysX elements of a game, which suits the cards they sell more than their competitor. But it would be more economical for the physics to be handled by the cpu, so users would be better keeping their cpu up to date, rather than spending more on their nvidia GC.
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Old 11-15-2010, 05:20 PM
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why should nv develop a program which does not use the resources they sell?

There isn't a AMD or Intel Physx version...
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:58 PM
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why should nv develop a program which does not use the resources they sell?

There isn't a AMD or Intel Physx version...
AMD has had HAVOK for some time now.. This is another code for simulated physics. Though AMD has not really done much with it, they are now looking at doing physics in Open-CL.. Though I wouldn't go jumping up and down for it, it remains to see if AMD will make a difference this time around or if this will fall flat too. AMD wants an open source physics code for any one to be able to develope on..
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Old 11-20-2010, 11:34 AM
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Well my GTX 580 will be here next week. I think that should handle the game well. I know my 480 is handling anything I have thrown at it while also running the Folding@Home GPU3 client.
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:40 PM
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Hi,

As of now do we have a clearer idea about approx when the game will be available ?

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Old 11-21-2010, 10:14 AM
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Hi,

As of now do we have a clearer idea about approx when the game will be available ?

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6 mos - 1 yr from now, best estimate. Cheers and welcome to the forum! Bonjour!
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:24 AM
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AMD has had HAVOK for some time now.. This is another code for simulated physics. Though AMD has not really done much with it, they are now looking at doing physics in Open-CL.. Though I wouldn't go jumping up and down for it, it remains to see if AMD will make a difference this time around or if this will fall flat too. AMD wants an open source physics code for any one to be able to develope on..
Intel bought Havok from the developer. Most here saw it the first time when they played Halflife 2.
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Old 11-15-2010, 05:24 PM
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CPU`s doesnt even come close to GPU`s abillity to handle PhysX, proppably never will.


Thats why NVidia is working so hard to make it a feature in games and nvidia gpu`s. The fact thet everyone who doesnt buy nvidia is whining about them dealing dirty is, well childish.

No reason what so ever why Nvidia should just give away features they work hard to develop.

Especially not to a company (read AMD) who cant even be bother if it cost them the slightest. (SoW to name one)
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:11 PM
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While nVidia is obviously doing what's best for them, us users complaining about it is anything but childish, it's about what's good for us.

For example, if 99% of the games 5 years from now use physX and you are forced to buy nVidia cards at grossly inflated prices due to lack of competition, you'll understand why people are complaining now in a effort to steer things the way of the customer while it's still early on
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