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Old 10-11-2010, 01:55 AM
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I couldn't go back to flying without TrackIR once I got used to it. It's that good of a piece of hardware.
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Old 10-11-2010, 05:42 AM
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I only use my tracking system in locked pit servers.
I find the mouse of more use with externals on.

Even on locked pit I find it equally easy to hold the base of my stick between my thumb and fore finger of my left hand and the throttle in the palm of my hand whilst I mouse view with my right hand.
When I need some extra authority on the control, or I need to fire, I swap my mouse hand over to the stick.
That probably sounds complex, difficult or unnatural, but I find it very easy.
I certainly never loose targets through disorientation.



I love my head tracking system, but that's mostly because it's more immerse, not because it gives any advantage over my mouse.
That said, if your less handy with a mouse, hat, or other viewing system, I can see head tracking being very, very useful.

I also love that it only cast me £10 to make.
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Old 10-11-2010, 08:23 AM
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I've flown on mostly full put servers, and never used anything but POV hat on my MSFFB2, and it didn't bother me.

But, I am seriously considering TrackIR + VectorClip for the SoW since will support 6DOF.
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Old 10-11-2010, 01:17 PM
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I've flown on mostly full put servers, and never used anything but POV hat on my MSFFB2, and it didn't bother me.

But, I am seriously considering TrackIR + VectorClip for the SoW since will support 6DOF.
I've decided to buy TIR 4 rather late, but wouldn't fly without it now. Immersion up immensely. The whining about "my TIR stopped working" etc. is largely a thing of the past, and in many cases the problem is in the wetware. 6DOF - I like being able to use it sometimes, many times it's not worth it though, precise shooting becomes an issue when it's on. For those that fly planes with asymmetrical gunsight positions 6DOF will be a major PITA I reckon.
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Old 10-11-2010, 02:29 PM
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I couldn't go back to flying without TrackIR once I got used to it. It's that good of a piece of hardware.
agree, the only difference is that i use freetrack (a forbidden word here? )
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:03 PM
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Has anyone tried both, FT and TIR?

What's the verdict?
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:27 PM
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Has anyone tried both, FT and TIR?

What's the verdict?

Yup.

Tried TIR 4 and am currently running freetrack.
The pros and cons run something like this:

Freetrack

++ Cheep (~£6 + the cost of a cheep webcam)
+ Slightly more customizable software
+ Tracks great when set up right! As good as TIR4 for me

-- You need to build a LED device
- Software profiles are a lot of hassle to get right
- Webcams use some processing power that make it unsuitable for single core machines (you can get around this by using a wii remote. Not a problem on medium-high end machines)
- Software has occasional bugs

Track IR

++ Almost plug and play, little hassle
+ Tracks great!
+ Minimal CPU usage

-- Quite expensive
- Sometimes sensitive to sunlight (TIR4, dunno about TIR5. I had this problem with freetrack to, but it was easy to fix with a stronger light filter)
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Old 10-11-2010, 04:17 PM
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Yup.

Tried TIR 4 and am currently running freetrack.
The pros and cons run something like this:

Freetrack

++ Cheep (~£6 + the cost of a cheep webcam)
+ Slightly more customizable software
+ Tracks great when set up right! As good as TIR4 for me

-- You need to build a LED device
- Software profiles are a lot of hassle to get right
- Webcams use some processing power that make it unsuitable for single core machines (you can get around this by using a wii remote. Not a problem on medium-high end machines)
- Software has occasional bugs

Track IR

++ Almost plug and play, little hassle
+ Tracks great!
+ Minimal CPU usage

-- Quite expensive
- Sometimes sensitive to sunlight (TIR4, dunno about TIR5. I had this problem with freetrack to, but it was easy to fix with a stronger light filter)
Well I doesnt work with a Cheap Webcam, you should buy a Wiimote 30€~. I have not had any issues with sunlight
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Old 10-11-2010, 06:05 PM
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I couldn't go back to flying without TrackIR once I got used to it. It's that good of a piece of hardware.
QFT

I tried using hatswitch once after I got used to the TiR but I'm useless without TiR now. I can't believe why some people keep stalling getting a TiR for no other reason than scepticism.
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Old 10-11-2010, 06:56 PM
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QFT

I can't believe why some people keep stalling getting a TiR for no other reason than scepticism.
And the fact TiR 5 is $170.00
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