Friday 2010-10-01 Dev. update and Discussion

[Abbeville-Boy]

[QUOTE=philip.ed;186966]MD, that's exactly what I was talking about earlier. Obviously the bottom won't be ruler straight, but it's very defined. IMO the clouds in SoW just need to be tweaked in shape, and then everything is there for the game to have the most realistic clouds ever. Indeed, it'd be great to see the type of sun reflection on the clouds, as that is something that I've noticed is really strong when flying over clouds. We have yet to see this shown clearly in SoW due to the angle of the shots taken (quote)


as a rule clouds base are flat but how do you know that they are not flat in the sim? you complained but have nothing to show us as proof of what you see? i have not seen a pic that lets you see the base i think oleg knows about clouds

[ElAurens]

Going to be hard to tell what we are seeing in all these work in progress screen shots we've been treated to, don't you think?



I have every reason to believe, based on the trend line of all the screens that have been posted from the first "wire frame" renders of the Hurri to the latest shots, and all that has been said by Oleg, Luthier, and other members of the dev team, that SoW:BoB will be a ground breaking title, and set the standard for all air combat simulation for at least a decade.

It's not about picking apart one or two screen shots folks. It's about the trend line, the distance travelled so far. I realize this is a hard concept for some to grasp, but grasp it you should.

[Sutts]

Oleg,

You probably gave up reading this many pages ago but I'd like to add my appreciation for your efforts to provide an update despite the upheaval caused by the office move.

The Wellington shots are magnificent, they really are photorealistic. I love being able to see the interior detail like the flare tube through the windows.
The clouds look great too.

Please don't be put off by a few immature remarks. Your posts are really valued by the majority of us here.

Hope the move went well.

[Sutts]

In terms of flat cloud bases....Oleg has mentioned that many different cloud types are modelled and I'm sure that his knowledge of weather at least matches the attention to detail we see in the airframes.

I agree that this type of cloud formation is very common in Britain but the fact that we haven't seen it yet doesn't mean it ain't there. I think weather might be one of the items that is still being tweaked....it's pretty complex stuff if you think about it.

As Oddball would say...have a little faith baby...have a little faith.

[Splitter]

Originally Posted by Sutts

In terms of flat cloud bases....Oleg has mentioned that many different cloud types are modelled and I'm sure that his knowledge of weather at least matches the attention to detail we see in the airframes.

I agree that this type of cloud formation is very common in Britain but the fact that we haven't seen it yet doesn't mean it ain't there. I think weather might be one of the items that is still being tweaked....it's pretty complex stuff if you think about it.

As Oddball would say...have a little faith baby...have a little faith.

AWESOME reference! I think he would have also said, "Always with he negative waves...".

No negative waves.

ElAurens is right, you have to look at the trend, which is promising.

Splitter

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by kendo65

WOW! No I didn't remember that one.

So they had it working and now it is bugged! Damn! Software is a frustrating business!

Thanks.

I actually think the weathering is not bad.

On my last adventure to New Guinea, (July this year) I took a few photo 's of 'Bar Fly' a B25A-5-NA (SN43-4450)
She's guarding the airport at Popondetta (North East coast of New Guinea)



As you can see the lettering weathers differently to the body of the aircraft, possibly due to the different paints/application methods used to paint them(?)
(bare in mind that this plane has been in the open for 67 years!)



Oh! and here is me with a Bren Gun at Efogi.



Cheers!

[Richie]

Just for fond memories for you guys who were there this is from the first big movie competition that was help for old IL-2 2001. Here's the 3rd place winner "Fear"


Lighten the mood in here lol.


http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t...rrent=Fear.mp4

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by zapatista

your a hypocrite and a liar tree, and you can add that to the tittle of coward you rightfully earned here before

a) your a hypocrite for now pretending you are a normal poster here who just contributes by constructive feedback, and pretending you are "misunderstood" in your intentions here. as your proven track record here shows in print for the last year for all to see, you are the exact opposite and deliberately post nothing but whining and bitching about release dates, to which you have now added deliberately offensive remarks to oleg and the updates he is sharing here

b) you'r a liar for posting in this exact thread (a few pages back) that you private msg'd me to try and resolve differences (was funny to see you type that, o the web you weave)

c) and your a coward for backtracking on your proclamation here a couple of months ago, where you said that BoB wouldnt come out for another yr, after which you got called on it by me to put your money where your mouth was, and all you did was to slithered away like a rodent

so no tree, pretending you are a normal contributor here and want to clear personal differences so that the forum can operate normally does not cut the mustard, you'r a phony

ahh, and should i now add "no offense of course" or can you type that yourself instead ?

all that is expected from you, like anybody else here, is that you
1) "contribute" to the forum
2) participate in a civilized constructive and adult manner in giving feedback on the glimpses we get in the regular updates

but you cant do it can you ? you really cant ! ehh because thats not why you are here boyo eh common, tell the good folks why you are really here, some barely know you and still fall for it

note to other forum users: sorry folks for all the negativity distracting from savoring your crumpet with your morning coffee, but the hypocrisy of that last post of his is just astounding and is purely aimed at blowing smoke up your..... mmmm well you know where i mean some might actually fall for it if their not fully awake on what they are asked to swallow, its called the "tree's slithering act part 1 of his backward peddling opus", and its a load of bull

Sorry for being direct here, but i'll say it short and simple for a change. So excuse me if i come off as rude because that's not my intention at all, i'm just too bored to reply in a properly sized post with nice words and eloquent structure. Let's go then!

You make some interesting and useful posts in there forums, this is not one of them.
Take it up on PM with him or something, or petition the mods to ban him, put him in your ignore list, whatever, it's your business and not ours. In short, and i say this with the best of possible intentions and no ill will at all directed towards you...





















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Back on topic,

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Going to be hard to tell what we are seeing in all these work in progress screen shots we've been treated to, don't you think?



I have every reason to believe, based on the trend line of all the screens that have been posted from the first "wire frame" renders of the Hurri to the latest shots, and all that has been said by Oleg, Luthier, and other members of the dev team, that SoW:BoB will be a ground breaking title, and set the standard for all air combat simulation for at least a decade.

It's not about picking apart one or two screen shots folks. It's about the trend line, the distance travelled so far. I realize this is a hard concept for some to grasp, but grasp it you should.

I agree on most if not all counts. It's the trends of the whole package that matter to me the most and not isolated features that can be corrected via patching.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Osprey

Well, you don't actually have to fly, just google

Surrey

i think that is probably one of the best real life photo's posted here yet, showing the combination of fields and pockets of dense woodlands that is typical for the south of england (but this photo being from surrey instead of kent)

by all indications in this weeks oleg screenshots, his current ingame performance can display this level of detail from higher altitude (? but we havnt seen medium altitude yet).

the low level screenshots from the last month or 2 however show only a very sparse tree cover on the ground, with a few shrubs and hedges sparingly placed at field boundaries, and near some roads (rather then the typical continues hedges that are present in real life scenery)

so the real questions this raises:
- were olegs low level previous shots done on the medium level pc he/luthier previously mentioned in another thread, and will we be able to get the high density tree-cover/hedges for low altitude eye candy when running a high end current pc at 1920 x 1200 screen rez ?
- or is the sparse hedge/tree cover on a maxed out high end pc, and will the new gfx engine in oleg's current build only be able to show it in a year or 2 with newer/better/faster pc's ?

either way, i dont think its a show stopper or warrants further delays. with the effort/time spent on it so far the most important factor is how many features he can include in the core of his new engine, because that will determine how much it can improve/expand in the next 5 to 10 yrs imho

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by zapatista

i think that is probably one of the best real life photo's posted here yet, showing the combination of fields and pockets of dense woodlands that is typical for the south of england (but this photo being from surrey instead of kent)

by all indications in this weeks oleg screenshots, his current ingame performance can display this level of detail from higher altitude (? but we havnt seen medium altitude yet).

the low level screenshots from the last month or 2 however show only a very sparse tree cover on the ground, with a few shrubs and hedges sparingly placed at field boundaries, and near some roads (rather then the typical continues hedges that are present in real life scenery)

so the real questions this raises:
- were olegs low level previous shots done on the medium level pc he/luthier previously mentioned in another thread, and will we be able to get the high density tree-cover/hedges for low altitude eye candy when running a high end current pc at 1920 x 1200 screen rez ?
- or is the sparse hedge/tree cover on a maxed out high end pc, and will the new gfx engine in oleg's current build only be able to show it in a year or 2 with newer/better/faster pc's ?

either way, i dont think its a show stopper or warrants further delays. with the effort/time spent on it so far the most important factor is how many features he can include in the core of his new engine, because that will determine how much it can improve/expand in the next 5 to 10 yrs imho

On the other hand, i do care about this. Excellent points in this post.