Friday 2010-10-01 Dev. update and Discussion

philip.ed · #1 10-01-2010, 07:47 PM

Is this rude:

Oleg, are the clouds shown final? They look quite nice, but IMHO are a bit grey? Also, they still look quite cotton-ballish. I hope this makes sense. I am sure it can be a feature that will always be tweaked from release, but this is just my two pence. Have a great weekend

that's my original post. I think it got blown way out of proportion.

MD_Titus · #2 10-01-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch_851

I know, and I wasn't complaining either.
I was attempting to politely point out to Tree that there's probably a very good reason why we maybe haven't been shown the full terrain.
In earlier update posts I've also pointed out that I'd be more than happy if this was the final result.
I don't have any gripe at all my friend, so stop being so hasty. Thanks.

possibly just quoted your post from a host of others tbh, no offence meant to you personally. just friday is "update day" and having to wade through a load of negative posts to see if oleg has responded to any serious questions grates.

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Originally Posted by philip.ed

Cloud shape is tricky. Generally mostly all clouds have flat bottoms. That's a definate. These clouds look like cotton balls, which really isn't realistic. But they may be WIP, so hopefully they'll be looked at at some point

Also, the clouds will reflect a lot of sunlight too. I have yet to see that effect modelled here. On a nice summer day, the clouds will look a vibrant white, whereas the area the sun doesn't hit will be a lot greyer (maybe like the ones shown, but with more texture)

Zapatista; you should count yourself lucky you haven't been banned. Name-calling like that is just childish. Women call eachother bitches. (Note, this is not a subliminal dig at you). Tree was just posting his own opinion. Your reaction was just a bit OTT.

If you feel that way, then a PM will save from cluttering the forum like that.

which is it man. i see plenty of clouds without a flat pan bottom on them. in fact, here in kent, they tend to be lumpy.

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK

According to Oleg it is finished other than the bugs.

and if you noticed he also said these are not current build shots. as in not the finished product, as in WIP.

as in ronseal.

philip.ed · #3 10-01-2010, 07:56 PM

MD, yes; in kent all clouds that I see have flat bottoms (or 99%. some clouds that break away from the larger ones won't to begin with). That, I'd say, is a safe bet. Google it and have a look

Have a nice weekend.

MD_Titus · #4 10-01-2010, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed

MD, yes; in kent all clouds that I see have flat bottoms (or 99%. some clouds that break away from the larger ones won't to begin with). That, I'd say, is a safe bet. Google it and have a look

Have a nice weekend.

why google when i look out the window every day.

seriously, you say flat, and it implies completely flat. or do you just mean that they have a bottom more like ~ than _

philip.ed · #5 10-01-2010, 08:37 PM

I live in Kent too

I think there is no way to define the flatness. It won't be ruler straight.

SlipBall · #6 10-01-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed

I live in Kent too

I think there is no way to define the flatness. It won't be ruler straight.

Post one of Oleg's shots for me, that you feel is not correct cloud base...I don't see any way to judge the cloud base shape, because the base is not shown

Bobb4 · #7 10-01-2010, 09:10 PM

What I like about the terrain is for the first time you can see definition, landsculpturing from a distance at altitude.
One can only imagine what it will be like down low and fast with a 109 glued to your arse...
The dead crew member is again something great to see, more immersion.
Also look at the level of detail in the distance. It is amazing.
Imagine flying the BoB as an Italian fighter jock

Novotny · #8 10-01-2010, 09:11 PM

What bothers me is the having to find fault. Some people can't just take an update and say it looks good; for some reason, they must have a criticism. I'd hate to know these people in real life - I would avoid them like the plague.

Is it just that the internet allows people to say things they wouldn't in real life? I think so. Nevertheless, I wish I was an admin. I'd be banning left right and centre.

philip.ed · #9 10-01-2010, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SlipBall

Post one of Oleg's shots for me, that you feel is not correct cloud base...I don't see any way to judge the cloud base shape, because the base is not shown

3rd set, shot 2 and 5. It's faintly clear here

philip.ed · #10 10-01-2010, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MD_Titus

why google when i look out the window every day.

seriously, you say flat, and it implies completely flat. or do you just mean that they have a bottom more like ~ than _

OK, this may answer the question.
This 3rd party app is something that I think should be considered for SoW, in the same way that speed-tree is used currently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLfHD...eature=related

As can be seen, the flat-bottom isn't necessarily ruler straight, but is a lot more defined that the current SoW models.
Notice the lighting too.