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Old 09-26-2010, 11:12 PM
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The way I read it, and it may not be how it was meant, was that the bomb was guided by the rail. My point was that the bomb was not released from the "belly" of the plane but was lowered on the rail prior and then released from there. I'm not sure id any other aircraft of the time had such a mechanism.
Well, yes, the trapeze swung down before release in order to keep the bomb away from the prop. The mechanism is not modeled in IL-2.

PS - I was looking for a video which would demonstrate the movement of the trapeze, when I stumbled upon this gem of historical accuracy. (watch from 3:45 until 4:10)


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Old 09-26-2010, 11:43 PM
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"trapeze": That's the word I have been looking for in my brain all day lol.

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Old 09-27-2010, 06:04 AM
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Well, yes, the trapeze swung down before release in order to keep the bomb away from the prop. The mechanism is not modeled in IL-2.

PS - I was looking for a video which would demonstrate the movement of the trapeze, when I stumbled upon this gem of historical accuracy. (watch from 3:45 until 4:10)


There is a close shot of the "Ablenkgabel" at 1'10" on this video.





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Old 09-27-2010, 07:39 AM
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I believe the correct description of the drop is as follows:
1. The bomb is RELEASED from the ETC501
2. The Bomb is GUIDED by the Trapez outside the propeller arc.
The Bomb is not released from the trapez as it isn't fixed to it!
There are just forks at the end of the trapez, not clamps.
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Old 09-27-2010, 07:48 AM
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I believe the correct description of the drop is as follows:
1. The bomb is RELEASED from the ETC501
2. The Bomb is GUIDED by the Trapez outside the propeller arc.
The Bomb is not released from the trapez as it isn't fixed to it!
There are just forks at the end of the trapez, not clamps.
Yes this is what I wrote, the bomb was GUIDED with the rail to avoid the propellor.
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Old 09-27-2010, 04:45 PM
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I think people are saying the same thing, just in a different way .

BTW, I had no idea any 0other aircraft had something similar. Advances made during the war never cease to amaze me. War is terrible, but it brings out a certain level of "inventiveness", just look at the aircraft development from pre-war through the end.

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Old 09-27-2010, 05:58 PM
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I think this device was standard in most dive bombers, for example the SBD Dauntless: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_...land,_1943.jpg

I'm not sure about the D3A Val however, the pictures i found were not clear enough. I didn't look thoroughly to be honest, just a quick search, so others might be able to find more information
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Old 09-27-2010, 06:12 PM
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Of all the footage I have watched of WWII planes over the years, I have never noticed that before!

I guess it is true that it's what you learn after you know it all that really counts lol. Awesome find. You guys are WWII aircraft nerds and I mean that in the BEST way.

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Old 09-28-2010, 02:39 AM
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I think this device was standard in most dive bombers, for example the SBD Dauntless: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_...land,_1943.jpg

I'm not sure about the D3A Val however, the pictures i found were not clear enough. I didn't look thoroughly to be honest, just a quick search, so others might be able to find more information
This one do ????



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Old 09-27-2010, 11:13 PM
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I think people are saying the same thing, just in a different way .

BTW, I had no idea any 0other aircraft had something similar. Advances made during the war never cease to amaze me. War is terrible, but it brings out a certain level of "inventiveness", just look at the aircraft development from pre-war through the end.

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Yeup, sounds like everyone was thinking the same thing, just using the wrong words!

The SBD Dauntless used the exact same "trapeze" method as well.

PS, I heard it called a "cradle"
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