Look what I saw flying today!

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by Hunden

Liberals are like sheep with really bad attitudes. Even while they are being led to slaughter by those they see as friends. They will blame the ones that are trying to warn them. Wars will always be a fact, they will not go away just because you know they are wrong. There will always be someone in power somewhere who wants more. Because there will always be sheep to say lets just try to understand them, we should not offend them.

War, in the sense that the term is currently used (fighting against people you've never even met), is a relatively recent phenomenon. For most of our existence, we've managed well enough without, and even now there are may people, perhaps the majority, who have never experienced war, and never will. The claim that it is inevitable (or even a good thing) has historically been made by many on the right, to justify their own greed for power. This is a lie.

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Men are from Mars , Woman are from Venus and liberals are from Uranus.

And denying the humanity of your opponents is typical far-right tactics. Stick your war-mongering garbage where the sun doesn't shine, Hunden.

[Hunden]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

War, in the sense that the term is currently used (fighting against people you've never even met), is a relatively recent phenomenon. For most of our existence, we've managed well enough without, and even now there are may people, perhaps the majority, who have never experienced war, and never will. The claim that it is inevitable (or even a good thing) has historically been made by many on the right, to justify their own greed for power. This is a lie.

The problem is its hard to tell the difference between the good guy and the bad guy sometimes. So what are you suppose to do? I say arm yourself just in case.

[Hunden]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

War, in the sense that the term is currently used (fighting against people you've never even met), is a relatively recent phenomenon. For most of our existence, we've managed well enough without, and even now there are may people, perhaps the majority, who have never experienced war, and never will. The claim that it is inevitable (or even a good thing) has historically been made by many on the right, to justify their own greed for power. This is a lie.

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And denying the humanity of your opponents is typical far-right tactics. Stick your war-mongering garbage where the sun doesn't shine, Hunden.

LMAO You will always be a sheep and thats ok you just don't relize the Dogs of War are needed agaisnt the wolfs that will feed on you and your lilly white ass.

[AndyJWest]

Hunden, if and when I'm threatened by wolves, I'd expect you to be somewhere in the pack. I'm no sheep (or liberal for that matter). I'm quite capable of defending myself from Fascists (and illiterates). And kindly keep your homoerotic fantasies for a more appropriate forum.

[Hunden]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Hunden, if and when I'm threatened by wolves, I'd expect you to be somewhere in the pack. I'm no sheep (or liberal for that matter). I'm quite capable of defending myself from Fascists (and illiterates). And kindly keep your homoerotic fantasies for a more appropriate forum.

I'm pretty sure the wolfs came knocking 70 years ago and my Grand Father came to your Grand Daddys aid just like I would even tho you would spit in my face afterwards. Its just who you are.

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by Hunden

I'm pretty sure the wolfs came knocking 70 years ago and my Grand Father came to your Grand Daddys aid just like I would even tho you would spit in my face afterwards. Its just who you are.

This is the sort of moronic response I'd expect from you, Hunden. Seeing as this is the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain, can you please enlighten us as to what your Grand Father was doing at the time?

I see from your personal details that you claim to be a US Marine. Perhaps you should ask a few marines who served in WW II what they think of your warmongering rhetoric. I doubt you'd find many who would have much sympathy with it.

[Hunden]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

This is the sort of moronic response I'd expect from you, Hunden. Seeing as this is the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain, can you please enlighten us as to what your Grand Father was doing at the time?

I see from your personal details that you claim to be a US Marine. Perhaps you should ask a few marines who served in WW II what they think of your warmongering rhetoric. I doubt you'd find many who would have much sympathy with it.

I never once said that I like War . All I have ever said is that you need to be prepared to defend youself. I notice that you hover in here, you log off but you still stay on the forum, then you log back on to respond. NO MARINE likes war, are you really that stupid, to think that anyone likes to go to WAR. Would you suggest that we have no standing army? Or would you rather we have a standing army with limited weapons so as to feel better about yourself? I'm done responding to you scumbag. You don't rate knowing anything about my family. or what we lost.

[AndyJWest]

I never once said that I like War . All I have ever said is that you need to be prepared to defend youself.

No you didn't. You suggested that those who disagreed with you were either 'sheep' or 'from Uranus'. I am prepared to defend myself. Sadly, it's people like you who are the threat.

I know nothing about what your family lost. You know nothing about my family. Neither of us have any right to wrap ourselves in flags dragged from the coffins of dead soldiers to push our personal political agendas. I don't. You do.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Hunden

I'm pretty sure the wolfs came knocking 70 years ago and my Grand Father came to your Grand Daddys aid just like I would even tho you would spit in my face afterwards. Its just who you are.

As far as I can recall, the US became actively involved in WW2 only after Japan attacked Pearl Harbour and Hitler declared war on the US.
This was in December 1941 and so was quite a significant length of time after the Battle of Britain.
There was a bit more to it than simply 'coming to our Grand Daddy's aid'.
After all, we'd been fighting since Sept 1939. The USAAF were involved from 1942.
Britain couldn't have mounted the D-Day invasion and subsequent Second Front in 1944 without the involvement of the US. Also the Materiel provided by lend-lease, and the loan of cash to fund the necessary war machine mostly came from the US.
Had the US not become involved, either financially or in actual participation, the prospect then was either that Germany would beat Russia, and all Europe would be Nazi, or Russia would beat Germany, and all Europe would be Communist. Stalin would have then been knocking at our door.
Horrible prospects either way.

BTW, can we please not get involved in such mud-slinging matches and personal attacks? Everyone's entitled to their views. Both Hunden and Andy I mean. Thanks.

[Hunden]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

As far as I can recall, the US became actively involved in WW2 only after Japan attacked Pearl Harbour and Hitler declared war on the US.
This was in December 1941 and so was quite a significant length of time after the Battle of Britain.
There was a bit more to it than simply 'coming to our Grand Daddy's aid'.
After all, we'd been fighting since Sept 1939. The USAAF were involved from 1942.
Britain couldn't have mounted the D-Day invasion and subsequent Second Front in 1944 without the involvement of the US. Also the Materiel provided by lend-lease, and the loan of cash to fund the necessary war machine mostly came from the US.
Had the US not become involved, either financially or in actual participation, the prospect then was either that Germany would beat Russia, and all Europe would be Nazi, or Russia would beat Germany, and all Europe would be Communist. Stalin would have then been knocking at our door.
Horrible prospects either way.

BTW, can we please not get involved in such mud-slinging matches and personal attacks? Everyone's entitled to their views. Both Hunden and Andy I mean. Thanks.

Excuse me for using the first number that came to mind (70) but if you want to knit pick be my guest.