Look what I saw flying today!

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Splitter

“our position remains one of neutrality,” a State Department spokesman told The Times.

That same resilience that brought you all through the Battle of Britain is still there, just lying dormant .
Splitter

The neutrality issue is no different to the attitude in the 80's so fair enough, although we did get some badly needed sidewinders from the US.

As to resilience, I'm not so sure.
Maybe its dormancy is what I find so bloody frustrating.

[Splitter]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

The neutrality issue is no different to the attitude in the 80's so fair enough, although we did get some badly needed sidewinders from the US.

As to resilience, I'm not so sure.
Maybe its dormancy is what I find so bloody frustrating.

Well, if I recall correctly, Reagan provided logistical and transport support during the Falklands war and the US has ALWAYS backed Britain's stance that they hold sovereignty over the Falklands. There has been no question where the US stood on the issue until the Obama administration.

I could see such a change in public position if the administration wanted to send a hard message to Britain for Britain not backing the US on something. Even allies throw diplomatic shots across each other's bows once in a while. Doesn't seem to be the case here though. Of course, we have no idea what is going on between the two countries in diplomatic back channels.

Yeah, Dutch, you all will still fight....we see your soccer games .

Splitter

EDIT: If I recall correctly, the Falklands had the West's last bayonet charge until British troops did it AGAIN in Iraq. That's guts. I think I would rather be in a firefight than square off in a bayonet fight.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Splitter

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Yeah, Dutch, you all will still fight....we see your soccer games .

Splitter

And did you see the one where Germany beat us 4-1 and we played like a bunch of whining schoolgirls? Disallowed goal or not?
Hmmph.
Bunch of overpaid popstar wimps. With an Italian manager who doesn't speak English.
Hmmph.
And Hmmph again.

[Viking]

To me this pretty much concludes this discussion.
Today we exchange information and ideas over the internet and it is virtually impossible to fool us once more to let the V-bombers fly in anger again .
We have different views on many things but never forget that there is a lot more that unites us than divides us.

Viking

Still very happy to see the relics of former war mongers flying only on the internet or in air-shows.

[Splitter]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

And did you see the one where Germany beat us 4-1 and we played like a bunch of whining schoolgirls? Disallowed goal or not?
Hmmph.
Bunch of overpaid popstar wimps. With an Italian manager who doesn't speak English.
Hmmph.
And Hmmph again.

Well, I meant the fights in the stands . You all should send some of the soccer fans to enforce your foreign policies. My number one gripe about soccer is the diving. Guys falling down, writhing on the ground, holding their ankle just to get a penalty kick. Once the referee makes the call they miraculously recover and pop right back up. I actually like watching a good soccer game though...too bad we don't have that over here lol.

Today is a HUGE day in the US as it is opening Sunday for professional American football...where large men wear pads and helmets and try to hurt one another while adhering to the largest rule book for a field sport. Oh yeah, baby!

The heart of any American football team are the men on the "lines" fighting in the "trenches". Quarterbacks, otherwise known as the "field general", penetrate the opposing defense with bullet passes and deep bombs. Every good team also needs a running attack to bludgeon the defense. The worst penalty a player can commit is a "personal foul". No metric crap either, it's a game of inches where players strive to gain just one more yard. If the game is tied at the end of regulation, we go into "sudden death".

So American, yes? lol. (tip of the cap to the great George Carlin)

That's why we have to call what you all play "soccer" and what we play "football". Calling them both football just gets too confusing for our colonial minds .

Splitter

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Splitter

Calling them both football just gets too confusing for our colonial minds .

Splitter

Ah yes, but we also have Rugby football of course, where men are men and mud is thick. A gumshield and jockstrap only. Very physical.
We also invented this sport, then taught it to various nations who now kick our collective arses on a regular basis. See a pattern here?
Then there's cricket.....

Anyway, back to topic - I have the Vulcan add-on for 'another flight sim' - ok FSX, and the thing is horrible to fly.
I'm continually either overspeeding or stalling out of the sky. It's impossible to trim out straight and level. The view out is appallingly restrictive, even with TrackIR and 6DOF. Landing it is a nightmare.
If the modelling is reasonably accurate, the blokes who flew these things in the dirt during the 'Red Flag' excercises were superhuman.
Does anyone else have any experience of this?
Or any tips?
Cheers

[TheGrunch]

*he-hem* I saw this aircraft (or certainly a Vulcan, anyway) fly over in my parents' house in Teesside a few days ago.

[Viking]

On wiki I read this regarding the last airworthy Vulcan the XH558 :

“Being the sole airworthy Vulcan, the aircraft's airworthiness status was in peril as maintenance funding was in need before the end of February, 2010. At the last moment an anonymous benefactor presented £458,000 to the foundation, ensuring its airworthiness for both its 50th birthday and the prospect of a flight performance for the 2012 Summer Olympic Games Opening Ceremony in London."

I find it astonishing not to say in bad taste to fly this ancient weapon of mass destruction over the crowd of people from all parts of the world who have come together to compete and celebrate in peace.


Viking

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Viking

I find it astonishing not to say in bad taste to fly this ancient weapon of mass destruction over the crowd of people from all parts of the world who have come together to compete and celebrate in peace.


Viking

Some weapons have a beauty that completely transcends any destructive nature they once had.
The Vulcan certainly falls into this category.

If you can't see it's beauty beyond it's former destructive capacity; open your eyes wider.

[Viking]

Originally Posted by Letum

Some weapons have a beauty that completely transcends any destructive nature they once had.
The Vulcan certainly falls into this category.

If you can't see it's beauty beyond it's former destructive capacity; open your eyes wider.

Hahah!
Obviously you are young and it will pass or you are ignorant and it is a lot worse!

See you

Viking