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Old 09-02-2010, 07:57 PM
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Agree, there is no link.

It is history, not modern art.
The link is the beacon.. I'm British and I made the link within 10 seconds of seeing the building. I'm no Architect but I know what I like and I like it.

And whoever said:

What message do they want to send, creating yet another memorial for a battle that happened 60 years ago?


Seriously..?

The message is never forget the young men who made it possible for you to dislike stuff without it getting you killed. Currently in the UK the only static
BoB memorial is a little statue of a pilot which is a litttle understated to say the least. If you happen to like it or not is besides the point, it's what it represents that's the important bit. But the way this forum is going at the moment means it was only a matter of time before it started getting all high brow and spikey.

The thing with eurpoean history is, we've got loads of it, all over the show. So by building something modern we're just adding to it not detracting from it.

I love the way people get so offended by modern buildings, it must really hurt their eyes or something when they see UGLY because they really don't like it.

It's like 'when nerds attack' in here sometimes
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:18 PM
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Don't think anyone should get worried about this. Under the current government, prop: D. Cameron, (who somehow thinks the Americans stood shoulder to shoulder with Britian during BOB!), we have a regime who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Aside from that nothing is more depressing than looking at aircraft dangling on wires like the bedroom of a nine year old boy in the 1960's. What if they spent the money restoring some of them to flying status, so we could see and hear them flying again, a much more fitting memorial to those who fought IMHO. But we aren't going to be seeing either I'm afraid unless someone knows that they've already got the cash and are going ahead.
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:51 PM
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Orville,

I understood "beacon", I just don't "see" a beacon there lol. I see a tall, twisty, shiny building that looks more like modern art than a memorial for a battle during WWII.

BTW, I don't dislike the building really, I just don't see the symbolic connection between the BoB and the architecture.

Don't trust the Americans on this one, though...we didn't have a WWII memorial in our nation's capital until a few years ago. Very sad.

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Old 09-02-2010, 11:16 PM
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When I say beacon I mean of the type used when the Spanish Armada was sighted off the British coast. A big stack of tree tunks all leaning against each other and the top half full of straw. Done slightly twisted so it stays upright..

A really basic beacon.
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Old 09-03-2010, 12:15 AM
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Restore this:




Or better still the whole of Tangmere.

Now that would be a fitting memorial.
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Old 09-03-2010, 12:25 AM
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Or better still the whole of Tangmere.

Now that would be a fitting memorial.
I totally agree with that. We do have a nasty habbit in the UK of ignoring some of the less 'grand' buildings even though they had a lot of historical importance. They get left to rot mostly. Unless they happen to be in central london, then they turn into tourist traps.
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Old 09-03-2010, 12:28 AM
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When I say beacon I mean of the type used when the Spanish Armada was sighted off the British coast. A big stack of tree tunks all leaning against each other and the top half full of straw. Done slightly twisted so it stays upright..

A really basic beacon.
Yeah, Lord of the Rings style . I was with ya. Still, it's too modern. Interesting take off, but I guess I like my monuments understated. If you have to look at it and go, "WTF?" then the designers are trying too hard lol.

I still like the building though (and I like the gherkin, just more in Dubai). Hey, at least they are doing something grand to honor the heroes, have to appreciate that.

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Old 09-03-2010, 12:15 PM
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What if they spent the money restoring some of them to flying status, so we could see and hear them flying again, a much more fitting memorial to those who fought IMHO. But we aren't going to be seeing either I'm afraid unless someone knows that they've already got the cash and are going ahead.
While my visit in February up there, I noticed some of the engines are leaking oil - they had trays with oil binder under the nacelles.

That's a good sign actually.

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Old 09-03-2010, 05:52 PM
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Seriously..?

The message is never forget the young men who made it possible for you to dislike stuff without it getting you killed. Currently in the UK the only static
BoB memorial is a little statue of a pilot which is a litttle understated to say the least. If you happen to like it or not is besides the point, it's what it represents that's the important bit.
Normally a lurker here but I have to say

Very Well Said winny!!

I'm surprised the poster had the nerve to profer the question.
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