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Old 08-31-2010, 11:55 PM
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'Leftist' in comparison to what?
LOL ... reminds of my time on a Student Union back in the 70's when two factions were fighting over control of the national body and got to the point of fire bombing each others cars and houses

The two factions fighting it out ? ... the Maoists and the Leninists
I was regarded as fairly centre/right being an anarchist at the time.

With a few exceptions like the KKK and the odd crackpot Christian blowing up abortion clinics, American politics tends to cluster around the middle.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:16 AM
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LOL ... reminds of my time on a Student Union back in the 70's when two factions were fighting over control of the national body and got to the point of fire bombing each others cars and houses

The two factions fighting it out ? ... the Maoists and the Leninists
I was regarded as fairly centre/right being an anarchist at the time.

With a few exceptions like the KKK and the odd crackpot Christian blowing up abortion clinics, American politics tends to cluster around the middle.
Well if the left is totalitarian and the right is anarchy with democracy smack in the middle, our country was founded right of center (republic). However, the movement currently is toward socialism which is obviously about that same distance left of center.

It's true that we have few communists/Nazis and fewer still anarchists. Our politics generally go from socialist on the left to "constitutionalist" on the right.

We swung about as far left as we have ever been thanks to Bush's second term and are pretty far down the road to socialism. Now the rubberband is snapping back and our legislative body will probably be right of center after November. Obama's approval ratings are in the Bush second term range so chances are he is a one term president....just like Carter.

BTW....people need to stop calling Nazi's "right wing". They hang out on the extreme left with the communists. The extreme right is reserved for anarchists with no government involvement.

(So how were you slightly right of center as an anarchist? lol. Cool anecdote)

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Old 09-01-2010, 12:29 AM
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BTW....people need to stop calling Nazi's "right wing". They hang out on the extreme left with the communists.
An outright lie. Worthy of Joseph Goebbels himself. Learn a little history...
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:01 AM
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An outright lie. Worthy of Joseph Goebbels himself. Learn a little history...
Wow!!! you are beyond hope if you believe that. You are a product of the sixties, to many drugs and not enough hugs?
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:05 AM
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Wow!!! you are beyond hope if you believe that. You are a product of the sixties, to many drugs and not enough hugs?
Ok ... I am totally failing to see how the NSDAP can possibly be seen as left wing. Even modern Neo-nazis are regarded as extreme right.

Unless you redefine "left wing" to mean "everything conservative America disagrees with regardless of actual ideology".
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:18 AM
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Yes, well, ultimately it comes down to 'truth' being whatever Splitter and Hunden say it is, rather than being based on any objective reality. The rest of the world only exists to confirm their prejudices. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, did I just hear a clock strike thirteen?
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:08 PM
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Ok ... I am totally failing to see how the NSDAP can possibly be seen as left wing.
If they relieve you of your duties as your factory owner, maybe you'll agree.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:31 PM
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Ok ... I am totally failing to see how the NSDAP can possibly be seen as left wing. Even modern Neo-nazis are regarded as extreme right.

Unless you redefine "left wing" to mean "everything conservative America disagrees with regardless of actual ideology".
Under Hitler the state progressively took over pretty much every aspect of German economic life, setting prices and assigning the scarce resources. That said, the other nations including Britain and the US did this too, during the war years. Strong centralised command and control of the economy is a defining 'left'/marxist trait.
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Old 09-02-2010, 07:55 AM
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Under Hitler the state progressively took over pretty much every aspect of German economic life, setting prices and assigning the scarce resources. That said, the other nations including Britain and the US did this too, during the war years. Strong centralised command and control of the economy is a defining 'left'/marxist trait.
That is called "total war", and has really nothing to do with leftist/rightist.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:29 PM
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Wow!!! you are beyond hope if you believe that. You are a product of the sixties, to many drugs and not enough hugs?
Would you care to back that up with some kind of credible sources?
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