[SOW] Horse-drawn vehicles

[Hunden]

Originally Posted by Dozer_EAF19

Historical accuracy question here - will there be horse-drawn vehicles in the game? Most of the German army, and probably the other armies too, was moved by horse in WW2. Are there legal/political/marketing reasons to prevent the player from shooting at horses?

Oh now you've done it, expect to hear a reply from madfish (cuddlefish) about the inhuman and cruel treatment of animated animals in a war simulator. Why don't we throw bubble gum at each other instead. You people crying about no nukes, no nukes, or how dare you shoot at that cute furry animal. Why don't we all go play with our Barbies now. For crying out loud this is a war simulator we're talking about or am i mistaken. Aren't there any other flight sims for the faint of heart. Why are flames modelled in this sim, not to mention bullets and bombs. Aren't we afraid of hurting someones feelings. You little girls make me ill. Just thinking out loud, hope i didn't offend anybody.

[leggit]

this would be historically correct...however quadruped animation is the most difficult of all animation to achieve..the time spent creating it might be better spent on other issues. 1 further point the British Army sold all its stock of horses to the Germans in the late 30's thus there was no horse drawn units in the British Army by the time of BoB.

[Avimimus]

I'm for horses. European horse stocks were almost entirely wiped out through use as pack animals (or food towards the end of the war). This element of the destruction shouldn't be overlooked.

Something for the modding community once the SDK is out, I should think.

[AndyJWest]

I'd say that perhaps we should include horses in SoW - if not in BoB then in whichever upgrade represents the final stages of the European war. Pilots on the axis side (purely in the interests of realism) will be obliged to eat them. Along with dead dogs, and the occasional rat if they get lucky...

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by Hunden

Oh now you've done it, expect to hear a reply from madfish (cuddlefish) about the inhuman and cruel treatment of animated animals in a war simulator. Why don't we throw bubble gum at each other instead. You people crying about no nukes, no nukes, or how dare you shoot at that cute furry animal. Why don't we all go play with our Barbies now. For crying out loud this is a war simulator we're talking about or am i mistaken. Aren't there any other flight sims for the faint of heart. Why are flames modelled in this sim, not to mention bullets and bombs. Aren't we afraid of hurting someones feelings. You little girls make me ill. Just thinking out loud, hope i didn't offend anybody.

There are plenty of xbox games where blood thirsty kiddies get to wander around chainsawing limbs off dead corpses. They are generally the same brats that flame people in online forums and start fights in online game servers.

There is a perception that this is "what the market wants" partly because online game reviews are written by the same immature brats. Hence even though the biggest selling game worldwide on any platform is actually "Sims" where you do not get to blow up, gut or kill anyone people seem to think pandering to bloodthirsty teenagers is good marketing.

Personally my main objection is the more blood and gore you add the more pain in the butt immature brats, trolls and hackers will want to play - ruining the game for everyone else.

[swiss]

Have I mentioned we also want mules and squirrels?

Both life like animated when shot?

[Friendly_flyer]

One of the Norwegian Spitfire pilots flying for RAF (No 331 and 332 Squ) wrote after the war that shooting up horse drawn vehicles was what got to him the most. Humans could always jump off, take cover, shoot back or whatever, but the poor horses had never hurt anyone and was trapped in their harness. Whenever he had had dreams about flying, it was always about the horses.

[Skoshi Tiger]

While were at it why don't we include some ambulances and red cross vehicles and railway carriages. There should be some no-shoot objects in the game. They could be set up to give negative points and court martials in our mission debriefings.

Also give you that nasty sinking feeling when you missidentify your target.

One of the Norwegian Spitfire pilots flying for RAF (No 331 and 332 Squ) wrote after the war that shooting up horse drawn vehicles was what got to him the most. Humans could always jump off, take cover, shoot back or whatever, but the poor horses had never hurt anyone and was trapped in their harness. Whenever he had had dreams about flying, it was always about the horses.

As an aside, durring World War I the one of the last things the many of the Australian Light Horse soldiers had to do before they left the middle east was shoot their horses. They couldn't be brought back home and they didn't want to leave them in unkind hands. Even though it bought war-hardened men to tears they generally chose to do the job themselves as a sign of respect for their mounts and as a chance to say a last good bye.

Cheers!

[jameson]

On a positive note if horses were included there might be an opportunity for a western SOW addon, Custer's last stand maybe?

[Rodolphe]

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Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

While were at it why don't we include some ambulances and red cross vehicles and railway carriages. There should be some no-shoot objects in the game. They could be set up to give negative points and court martials in our mission debriefings.

Also give you that nasty sinking feeling when you missidentify your target.

Cheers!

During the early part of the war, the Seenotdienst was inaugurated by the Germans to rescue airmen downed over the sea, using Heinkel He 59. These aircraft were painted white and adorned with numerous red crosses, could carried armaments and were observed carrying out reconnaissance tasks. The British government duly gave warning in a communiqué of 14 July 1940 that such planes would be considered legitimate targets.

Enemy aircraft bearing civil markings and marked with the Red Cross have recently flown over British ships at sea and in the vicinity of the British coast, and they are being employed for purposes which His Majesty's Governement cannot regard as being consistent with the privileges generally accorded to the Red Cross.

His Majesty's Government desire to accord to ambulance aircraft reasonable facilities for the transportation of the sick and wounded, in accordance with the Red Cross Convention, and aircraft engaged in the direct evacuation of the sick and wounded will be respected, provided that they comply with the revelant provisions of the Convention.

His Majesty's Government are unable, however, to grant immunity to such aircraft flying over areas in which operations are in progress on land or at sea, or approaching British or Allied territory, or territory in British occupation, or British or Allied ships.

Ambulance aircraft which do not comply with the above requirements will do so at their own risk and peril.

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